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#26 2008-10-15 12:33 pm

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Re: Non-christians want an Obama win

jerwin wrote:

CG5Addict wrote:

ShnickyShnack wrote:

Obama's half white, remember. He may yet be the Anti-Christ!

hmm Not even close to being funny. roll

Um, does the concept of miscegenation mean anything to you? Because it shouldn't.

I'm a Christian, that's why I don't find that that commant funny at all! roll end of subject!


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#27 2008-10-15 12:40 pm

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Re: Non-christians want an Obama win

Sucks to be you, I guess. You don't get to make that call.

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#28 2008-10-15 1:16 pm

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Re: Non-christians want an Obama win

The whole thing's pretty whacked out. Even if you accept Daniel for what it is claimed to be, the Roman Empire's dead. Their language-- dead except for small pockets of use, such as the Vatican, and the Swiss Confederation. Their culture-- amalgamated beyond recognition. How about bloodlines, then? Fine: 2000 years have passed, 80 generations. Enough for most everybody in Europe and the Americas  to have Italianate Roman ancestry. Even enough time to conveniently forget that at the time, "Roman" did not necessarily mean "Italian" or "European', or any of those things. I say "Obama is in." And if you believe he's disqualified because of notions of "race," well, I'm sorry to say this: you're  just plain racist.


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#29 2008-10-15 1:51 pm

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Re: Non-christians want an Obama win

jerwin wrote:

The whole thing's pretty whacked out. Even if you accept Daniel for what it is claimed to be, the Roman Empire's dead. Their language-- dead except for small pockets of use, such as the Vatican, and the Swiss Confederation. Their culture-- amalgamated beyond recognition. How about bloodlines, then? Fine: 2000 years have passed, 80 generations. Enough for most everybody in Europe and the Americas  to have Italianate Roman ancestry. Even enough time to conveniently forget that at the time, "Roman" did not necessarily mean "Italian" or "European', or any of those things. I say "Obama is in." And if you believe he's disqualified because of notions of "race," well, I'm sorry to say this: you're  just plain racist.

You clearly haven't read the prophecies in Daniel closely enough.

31 "You looked, O king, and there before you stood a large statue—an enormous, dazzling statue, awesome in appearance. 32 The head of the statue was made of pure gold, its chest and arms of silver, its belly and thighs of bronze, 33 its legs of iron, its feet partly of iron and partly of baked clay. 34 While you were watching, a rock was cut out, but not by human hands. It struck the statue on its feet of iron and clay and smashed them. 35 Then the iron, the clay, the bronze, the silver and the gold were broken to pieces at the same time and became like chaff on a threshing floor in the summer. The wind swept them away without leaving a trace. But the rock that struck the statue became a huge mountain and filled the whole earth.

36 "This was the dream, and now we will interpret it to the king. 37 You, O king, are the king of kings. The God of heaven has given you dominion and power and might and glory; 38 in your hands he has placed mankind and the beasts of the field and the birds of the air. Wherever they live, he has made you ruler over them all. You are that head of gold.

39 "After you, another kingdom will rise, inferior to yours. Next, a third kingdom, one of bronze, will rule over the whole earth. 40 Finally, there will be a fourth kingdom, strong as iron—for iron breaks and smashes everything—and as iron breaks things to pieces, so it will crush and break all the others. 41 Just as you saw that the feet and toes were partly of baked clay and partly of iron, so this will be a divided kingdom; yet it will have some of the strength of iron in it, even as you saw iron mixed with clay. 42 As the toes were partly iron and partly clay, so this kingdom will be partly strong and partly brittle. 43 And just as you saw the iron mixed with baked clay, so the people will be a mixture and will not remain united, any more than iron mixes with clay.

44 "In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever. 45 This is the meaning of the vision of the rock cut out of a mountain, but not by human hands—a rock that broke the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver and the gold to pieces.
      "The great God has shown the king what will take place in the future. The dream is true and the interpretation is trustworthy."

The Roman Empire, which is widely acknowledged as the fourth kingdom in this prophecy, never formally dissolved, it just broke up into various smaller nations, which are represented by the feet and toes of iron and clay. It's speculative, but some people believe the EU may represent this 'fifth kingdom'

However, it is also believed that the anti-Christ will attempt to assert himself as Christ, which would mean he would necessarily have to be of Jewish descent. Obama's background contains neither to my knowledge. Further, most theologians believe that the anti-Christ will surface in the former Roman Empire, or Europe/North Africa. Obama surfaced in Chicago - not exactly territory ever controlled by the Romans. I'd say he's out.

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#30 2008-10-15 2:09 pm

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Re: Non-christians want an Obama win

CG5Addict wrote:

ShnickyShnack wrote:

Obama's half white, remember. He may yet be the Anti-Christ!

hmm Not even close to being funny. roll

Seriously. Disgusting, isn't it?


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#31 2008-10-15 2:27 pm

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Re: Non-christians want an Obama win

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRqcfqiXCX0

I would take the non-Christians over these people any day.


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#32 2008-10-15 2:43 pm

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Re: Non-christians want an Obama win

mo' ron wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRqcfqiXCX0

I would take the non-Christians over these people any day.

I got the impression it was more about a group of racist, fear-filled pricks than Christians.

BTW - what are you doing watching Al Jazeera anyway? Are you with the terrorists? wink

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#33 2008-10-15 4:38 pm

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Re: Non-christians want an Obama win

radarman wrote:

However, it is also believed that the anti-Christ will attempt to assert himself as Christ, which would mean he would necessarily have to be of Jewish descent. Obama's background contains neither to my knowledge. Further, most theologians believe that the anti-Christ will surface in the former Roman Empire, or Europe/North Africa. Obama surfaced in Chicago - not exactly territory ever controlled by the Romans. I'd say he's out.

Christ ≠ Jesus.


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#34 2008-10-15 5:44 pm

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Re: Non-christians want an Obama win

Alien wrote:

Sucks to be you, I guess. You don't get to make that call.

.tsooJ

O.K. this seems to be getting out of hand. Admin or not, I think thay can say things out thier a** too.  I think this topic needs to be closed. roll


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#35 2008-10-15 5:48 pm

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Re: Non-christians want an Obama win

CG5Addict wrote:

Alien wrote:

Sucks to be you, I guess. You don't get to make that call.

.tsooJ

O.K. this seems to be getting out of hand. Admin or not, I think thay can say things out thier a** too.  I think this topic needs to be closed. roll

I think you misunderstood him.
You can give your opinion about things but you don't have the junior mod badge so you don't get to make calls on what threads stay open and what's allowed or not.


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#36 2008-10-15 6:05 pm

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Re: Non-christians want an Obama win

Farmerkev wrote:

You can give your opinion about things but you don't have the junior mod badge so you don't get to make calls on what threads stay open and what's allowed or not.

Did not say I had one. My quote was "I think this topic should be closed". Not I'm closing this topic. tongue


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#37 2008-10-15 6:26 pm

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Re: Non-christians want an Obama win

CLOSES TOPIC.

Take that, bitches.


Aw, he's no fun, he fell right over.

Unless you become as little children, there's no way you will believe this crap.

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#38 2008-10-15 6:29 pm

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Re: Non-christians want an Obama win

user wrote:

CLOSES TOPIC.

Take that, bitches.

lollollol

Thanks, I needed a laugh. big_smile


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#39 2008-10-15 7:50 pm

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Re: Non-christians want an Obama win

radarman wrote:

You clearly haven't read the prophecies in Daniel closely enough.

42 As the toes were partly iron and partly clay, so this kingdom will be partly strong and partly brittle. 43 And just as you saw the iron mixed with baked clay, so the people will be a mixture and will not remain united, any more than iron mixes with clay.[/b]

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