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#1 2008-10-17 1:04 pm
- sonnymoon42
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Mac SE & Internet Connectivity with Ethernet
I have a Mac SE running System 7.0.1. I have an Asante Talk Ethernet to LocalTalk adapter, a cool little magic box that connects the SE to my ethernet network. It can file share with my modern Macs and print to my Postscript printer.
What I can't figure out is how to connect to the Internet from the SE. Not that I have a particular reason for doing so, but I'm curious as to how it might be done. I have Verizon FIOS, and for the modern Macs, connecting is simple.
With the Mac SE, I have MacTCP installed. In the olden days of dial up modems, I would have used MacPPP (or FreePPP) to dial up my ISP and that would be that. Via an ethernet router, things are more complicated, as there is no DHCP option for MacTCP.
Any ideas?
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#2 2008-11-07 7:49 pm
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Re: Mac SE & Internet Connectivity with Ethernet
OK, 3 questions...hopefully you can answer most of them man.
•What OS is the SE running?
•Is it getting an IP address from MacTCP ? [ you might need to get the TCP/IP control panel running ]
•Is that adapter only for getting AppleTalk to work (which doesn't require any IP Addresses)
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#3 2008-11-08 9:09 am
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Re: Mac SE & Internet Connectivity with Ethernet
Low End Mac still has an article up called Bridging LocalTalk and Ethernet, but the promised sequel, "Sharing an Ethernet Connection", doesn't seem to exist.
Once long ago, I got an SE working as an email computer, but it needed a Power Mac sharing its Internet connection. If I remember right, I set up MacTCP with a static 192.168.x.x IP address and had the Power Mac running a software router.
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#4 2008-11-08 1:16 pm
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Re: Mac SE & Internet Connectivity with Ethernet
You just need to set the IP settings in MacTCP manually. No big deal.
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#5 2008-11-09 8:18 pm
- sonnymoon42
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Re: Mac SE & Internet Connectivity with Ethernet
Running System 7.0.1 on a Mac SE (68000 processor, 4 Megs of RAM) works pretty well, but it's obviously limited in what it can do. I would need an '030 processor, and System 7.5 (I think) to run TCP/IP and Open Transport.
When I look at the Ethernet panel on my OS X Macs (configured automatically for DHCP) it lists both the Mac's IP address and the router's address. I also have an old PowerPC Mac running System 7.6.1, which uses TCI/IP. On that, the control panel is also set to "Using DHCP Server" and IP address, Subnet Mask, Router Address all say "will be supplied by server".
On the SE, In the MacTCP window, there are 3 ways to obtain the Mac's IP address: Manually, Server, or Dynamically. Athe the moment, I have it set to Server, although I've tried the other options, and nothing seems to work.
There is also a space for "Gateway Address" which right now reads 0.0.0.0 What is the Gateway? Is it the router address?
For the IP Address, I have it as a Class C Address, 192.x.x.x, and the Subnet mask is 255.255.255.0.
Below that is a Net field, with an 8-didgit number. The 2 fields below that , Subnet and Node, both have zeros.
The box below that is for Domain Name Server Information. Is this for the IP address for Verizon (which is probably not a static address, anyway)? Or the IP address of the router that connects to Verizon?
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#6 2008-11-10 8:36 am
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Re: Mac SE & Internet Connectivity with Ethernet
Gateway = Router IP
Domain Name Server = Router IP
"Dynamically" should grab an IP from the routers DHCP server.
http://www.vintagemacworld.com/mactcpip.html
Other setup directions are there. I suspect it's just a minor configuration issue - you might have to delete (corrupt?) preference files and start over.
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#7 2008-11-10 8:50 am
Re: Mac SE & Internet Connectivity with Ethernet
I think those adapters only route AppleTalk. TCP/IP won't work over LocalTalk, directly. So, you'll need an AppleTalk bridge that provides MacIP (TCP/IP encapsulated in AppleTalk) and connect to your TCP/IP network that way.
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#8 2008-11-10 2:31 pm
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Re: Mac SE & Internet Connectivity with Ethernet
Alien wins. Oops.
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#9 2008-11-17 12:33 pm
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Re: Mac SE & Internet Connectivity with Ethernet
An AppleTalk bridge!
Thanks for the tip.
I'll have to do some research on that...
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