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#1 2009-01-19 12:13 am

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Can we please merge some forums?

We've subdivided everything to the nth degree around here so much it feels like most forums are completely dead.  There isn't enough traffic to support this kind of straining at gnats.


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#2 2009-01-19 3:19 am

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Re: Can we please merge some forums?

Which forums are you referring to specifically?

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#3 2009-01-19 6:58 am

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Re: Can we please merge some forums?

Well, for instance, you could fold On The Go, The Pro Shop, Programming, Networking and Gaming into In Tech News and rename it to something more general purpose-Mac oriented.  Those forums only have about 6-12 threads with any replies since the new year and most haven't had any responses in anywhere from 2 days to 2 weeks.

The three forums under the Alternative Life heading are totally dead.  Boot Camp and Hardware Hacking could merge into the existing help forum and the Vintage Apple one could go into the new all purpose Mac forum.

SETI hasn't had a post in 6 months.  It could just go away.  Folding isn't exactly busy either. 

I don't know what to tell you about all the Clan MacLife stuff. 

That's just what comes off the top of my head.  I've seen forums with 3 times the activity with less than half this many forums.  All the subdividing of every different possible subject matter into different forums just makes things seem even more slow and dead.


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#4 2009-01-19 9:09 am

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Re: Can we please merge some forums?

The games forum is active all the time, even with new topics often, even if they're for windows and console games. And I like the games forum. It must stay. It will.

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#5 2009-01-19 10:46 am

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Re: Can we please merge some forums?

That's fine.  I don't think it's as active as you think it is, you're just more interested in it.  But whatever.  The point is, there are way too many forums separating all the different kinds of threads too finely.  We could do with several of them going away.


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#6 2009-01-19 10:58 am

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Re: Can we please merge some forums?

Former Windork wrote:

Well, for instance, you could fold On The Go, The Pro Shop, Programming, Networking and Gaming into In Tech News and rename it to something more general purpose-Mac oriented.  Those forums only have about 6-12 threads with any replies since the new year and most haven't had any responses in anywhere from 2 days to 2 weeks.

The three forums under the Alternative Life heading are totally dead.  Boot Camp and Hardware Hacking could merge into the existing help forum and the Vintage Apple one could go into the new all purpose Mac forum.

SETI hasn't had a post in 6 months.  It could just go away.  Folding isn't exactly busy either. 

I don't know what to tell you about all the Clan MacLife stuff. 

That's just what comes off the top of my head.  I've seen forums with 3 times the activity with less than half this many forums.  All the subdividing of every different possible subject matter into different forums just makes things seem even more slow and dead.

The Pro Shop, Programming and Neworking areas might be combinable. Tech News is a separate subject and isn't soemthing that should be grouped with the others. Boot Camp and Hardware Hacking are sufficiently diverse to warrant being separate. Vintage Macs are a totally different subject as well and should be kept separate.


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#7 2009-01-19 11:20 am

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Re: Can we please merge some forums?

If people were burning up the boards talking about all those distinct subject areas, I'd agree with you.  But they aren't.  Those threads would do just fine in the main forum.  And In Tech News isn't even busy enough to keep it separate for just the latest Mac news.  Back 3 years ago when this place was really hopping, I'd say leave well enough alone.  But none of these forums make any sense to keep apart anymore.


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#8 2009-01-19 12:19 pm

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Re: Can we please merge some forums?

I've seen the mish-mash method of combining topics and the separated method.   The problem with combining is that its hard to go back without either losing threads or without a new database structure.   

If the place isn't hopping, start a new thread on some topic of interest.   Be a leader, not a follower.

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#9 2009-01-19 12:24 pm

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Re: Can we please merge some forums?

I understand SETI and Folding both use BOINC. And there are other things that use BOINC too. Maybe there could be one BOINC forum.

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#10 2009-01-19 2:08 pm

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Re: Can we please merge some forums?

ukimalefu wrote:

The games forum is active all the time, even with new topics often, even if they're for windows and console games. And I like the games forum. It must stay. It will.

What he said.

Former Windork wrote:

That's fine.  I don't think it's as active as you think it is, you're just more interested in it.

No. Not only do I post often there, as easily seen, my Net connectivity has been frequently interrupted lately. I expect that to be temporary.

Go back a little further, you'll see a lot more activity.


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#11 2009-01-19 2:58 pm

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Re: Can we please merge some forums?

No.

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#12 2009-01-19 4:28 pm

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Re: Can we please merge some forums?

ukimalefu wrote:

I understand SETI and Folding both use BOINC. And there are other things that use BOINC too. Maybe there could be one BOINC forum.

No, SETI and a lot of other projects use BOINC. Folding uses it's own software, though they have looked into BOINC.


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#13 2009-01-19 4:52 pm

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Re: Can we please merge some forums?

arkayn wrote:

ukimalefu wrote:

I understand SETI and Folding both use BOINC. And there are other things that use BOINC too. Maybe there could be one BOINC forum.

No, SETI and a lot of other projects use BOINC. Folding uses it's own software, though they have looked into BOINC.

Folding has 3 major dialects:  Amber, Gromacs and Tinker.  Folding is available for 4 platforms:  Windows, Mac OS X, Linux and Playstation 3.    There is a Windows version use the graphics card of the computer and is called GPU clients.    It is hoped that with OS 10.6 that a GPU client will for Mac will be released.  The GPU and Playstation 3 clients are the most prolific, according to Stanford University statistics.   There is some of each client in use on the Team.

Worldwide: there are 3,794,582 CPUs in Folding, cranking out 4789 TFLOPS.

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#14 2009-01-19 4:52 pm

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Re: Can we please merge some forums?

arkayn wrote:

ukimalefu wrote:

I understand SETI and Folding both use BOINC. And there are other things that use BOINC too. Maybe there could be one BOINC forum.

No, SETI and a lot of other projects use BOINC. Folding uses it's own software, though they have looked into BOINC.

Well, volunteer computing and/or grid computing, or whatever it's called. I think all of those could be rolled into one forum.

I run SETI@home because I want to believe and find "them".

Folding scares me because it can be used for (resident) evil. Ok, not really wink I hope it helps find cures for cancer and aids, etc. But I don't use it.

Here's the BOINC website:

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/

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#15 2009-01-19 5:06 pm

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Re: Can we please merge some forums?

SETI has released a GPU unit for Nvidia cards on Windows(official) and Linux(unofficial) machines.


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#16 2009-01-19 5:12 pm

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Re: Can we please merge some forums?

arkayn wrote:

SETI has released a GPU unit for Nvidia cards on Windows(official) and Linux(unofficial) machines.

Mac OS X support is coming soon

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/cuda.php

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#17 2009-01-19 7:01 pm

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Re: Can we please merge some forums?

Of course I am waiting for ATI crunching.

3 machines and all of them have ATI video cards.


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#18 2009-01-19 7:30 pm

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Re: Can we please merge some forums?

I personally don't have a problem with merging Everyday Tech and In Tech News, but i don't care if they stay the way they are, either.

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#19 2009-01-19 9:40 pm

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Re: Can we please merge some forums?

Definitely roll "On the Go" into Everyday Tech, because these days it is everyday tech.

Combine Folding and SETI into a "Distributed Computing" forum like uki said.

Roll all the Clan Mac|Life stuff into a single forum, and put it next to Gaming.

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The Pro Shop, Programming and Networking areas might be combinable.

The Pro Shop is for creative, artsy stuff. Combining just Programming and Networking might work, though. Maybe.

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#20 2009-01-19 10:23 pm

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Re: Can we please merge some forums?

I always saw it as aimed at creative professionals myself.

Merging all three or just Programing & Networking would seem to be feasible options to me.

If the former were done (merging all three) The Pro Shop would still be a viable name but I say the tag line would need an update, say maybe "The art and science of using a Mac professionally."

If the latter were done (merging Programing & Networking), a new name would be called for as well as a tag line update.

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#21 2009-01-19 10:28 pm

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Re: Can we please merge some forums?

Macskeeball wrote:

Combine Folding and SETI into a "Distributed Computing" forum like uki said.

I agree with this one.


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#22 2009-01-19 10:29 pm

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Re: Can we please merge some forums?

How about renaming Everyday Tech into something more descriptive.  It doesn't sound like a tech support forum at all.  I agree that many of the forums could be combined to make a more streamlined experience.  The Clan forums can all go together at this point.  Its rare to see any activity down there. 

How about this forum list:

Maclife Readers

Forum Feedback

Tech News

Tech Support (combines Networking & Servers, On The Go, and Everyday Tech)

Creative Corner (combines Programming and Web Dev, The Pro Shop)

Gaming (well, duh!)

Unplugged

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The Others (combines Vintage Mac, Boot Camp, Hardware Hacking)

Distributed Computing (combines Folding and SETI)

Clan MacLife (combines all the clan forums)


Face it folks, some of these forums just don't get the traffic needed to justify having a separate forum.  Having fewer forums on the list would be far less daunting to new visitors, and it would help prevent people from posting things in the wrong areas.  Some topics may interest people in several forums, so they could be all together.  Other forums (the Boot Camp, Hardware Hacking, and Vintage Apple for example) may not be totally related, but they don't get much traffic alone, and could be combined for simplicity sake.  Someone interested in old Macs might not visit the hacking site, but someone may be looking for info there about modifying an old Mac.  Same with Boot Camp.  Someone asking for help running an emulator for the classic Mac OS on Windows may get help from someone in the vintage Mac section.  Things aren't as mutually exclusive as they may first seem.

Those in charge may think that having more forums makes things simpler for people, but I think that it is just the opposite.  Instead of having to browse a dozen or more forums, one could just hit the two or three that would contain them all.  Saves time, saves screen space, makes less stress.  smile

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#23 2009-01-19 10:46 pm

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Re: Can we please merge some forums?

Overall I like your idea, Orion. In particular, Everyday Tech + On the Go + Networking = "Tech Support" forum makes a lot of sense IMO. I'd just like to note that Everyday Tech isn't just tech support; it also includes tech discussion that isn't in the news. Maybe rename "In Tech News" to something like "Tech News & Discussion."

Combining programming with professional artsy stuff seems strange, but then again making web stuff has both elements.

Having a single Clan Mac|Life forum is good, but again it belongs next to Gaming (probably right after it).

I'm not sure how I feel about your idea of "The Others." They're too unrelated and the title too ambiguous. Perhaps that wouldn't be needed if the other ideas were done.

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#24 2009-01-19 10:59 pm

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Re: Can we please merge some forums?

I've pointed this out only about 380 billion times already but Everyday IS NOT, I repeat, IS NOT exclusively a tech support forum. It is also for general tech discussion say sharing what your setup are like or what sort of configurations you prefer for your browser.

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#25 2009-01-19 11:00 pm

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Re: Can we please merge some forums?

ScifiterX wrote:

I've pointed this out only about 380 Billion times already but Everyday IS NOT, I repeat, IS NOT exclusively a tech support forum.

Yep, I just pointed that out in the post above yours with an edit. I had an idea to address that.


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