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#151 2009-01-22 11:15 am
Re: Israel to world: we really don't give a damn what you think.
Hiroshima and Nagasaki don't ring a bell?
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#152 2009-01-22 11:50 am
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Re: Israel to world: we really don't give a damn what you think.
Not so great--
A Channel 2 election poll revealed on Wednesday that Likud has opened a significant lead over Kadima, which stands at eight seats.
According to the poll, in next month's general election Likud will win 30 seats, as opposed to 22 for Kadima. Labor under Defense Minister Ehud Barak wins 14 seats, as opposed to 16 in last week's poll.
Avigdor Lieberman's far-right party Yisrael Beiteinu has gained unprecedented popularity, and now wins 16 seats. Shas grows stronger too, and wins 11 seats.
It is yet to be determined to what extent the support for the Arab parties Balad and Ra'am-Ta'al has been influenced by Wednesday's Supreme Court decision to uphold their right to run. So far they win three and two seats respectively.
Another poll showed on Wednesday that Likud chairman Benjamin Netanyahu is favored by the largest proportion of the voters to lead the country in case the violence in Gaza resumes. He wins the support of 34 percent of the people surveyed, as opposed to 17 percent that favor Tzipi Livni.
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#153 2009-01-22 12:04 pm
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Re: Israel to world: we really don't give a damn what you think.
Not the least bit surprising. Like most countries, Israel prefers strong leaders in times of war.
And there's too much of an acceptance of war as a natural state of being to question strategy and overall direction of the country.
I expect Bibi to be PM.
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#154 2009-01-23 2:04 am
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Re: Israel to world: we really don't give a damn what you think.
bratboy wrote:
Not so great--
A Channel 2 election poll revealed on Wednesday that Likud has opened a significant lead over Kadima, which stands at eight seats.
According to the poll, in next month's general election Likud will win 30 seats, as opposed to 22 for Kadima. Labor under Defense Minister Ehud Barak wins 14 seats, as opposed to 16 in last week's poll.
Avigdor Lieberman's far-right party Yisrael Beiteinu has gained unprecedented popularity, and now wins 16 seats. Shas grows stronger too, and wins 11 seats.
It is yet to be determined to what extent the support for the Arab parties Balad and Ra'am-Ta'al has been influenced by Wednesday's Supreme Court decision to uphold their right to run. So far they win three and two seats respectively.
Another poll showed on Wednesday that Likud chairman Benjamin Netanyahu is favored by the largest proportion of the voters to lead the country in case the violence in Gaza resumes. He wins the support of 34 percent of the people surveyed, as opposed to 17 percent that favor Tzipi Livni.
That's been my biggest concern here for some time. Netanyahu is quite in favor of reoccupying Gaza. I suspect a large part of the reason for this action was to regain potential voters lost to Likud; but it seems to have failed even in that.
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#155 2009-01-23 6:35 am
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Re: Israel to world: we really don't give a damn what you think.
“The outline for a durable ceasefire is clear: Hamas must end its rocket fire: Israel will complete the withdrawal of its forces from Gaza: the US and our partners will support a credible anti-smuggling and interdiction regime, so that Hamas cannot re-arm,” the US president said.
“As part of a lasting ceasefire, Gaza’s border crossings should be open to allow the flow of aid and commerce, with an appropriate monitoring regime, with the international and Palestinian Authority participating.”
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#157 2009-01-23 1:09 pm
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Op-Ed: Israel's bigger battle ahead: its national identity
Quite interesting.
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#158 2009-01-23 1:12 pm
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Re: Israel to world: we really don't give a damn what you think.
ShnickyShnack wrote:
“The outline for a durable ceasefire is clear: Hamas must end its rocket fire: Israel will complete the withdrawal of its forces from Gaza: the US and our partners will support a credible anti-smuggling and interdiction regime, so that Hamas cannot re-arm,” the US president said.
“As part of a lasting ceasefire, Gaza’s border crossings should be open to allow the flow of aid and commerce, with an appropriate monitoring regime, with the international and Palestinian Authority participating.”
Those were Israel's original conditions for re-opening the border. Hamas wouldn't allow it.
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#159 2009-01-23 1:35 pm
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Re: Israel to world: we really don't give a damn what you think.
Israel was not justified in locking down Gaza, regardless of whatever "conditions" by which it claimed it would be reopened.
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