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#51 2009-03-20 9:15 pm

Tallgeese
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Re: careful what you say

So, um, how are you feeling?


I still believe in liberalism today as much as I ever did, but, oh, there was a happy time when I believed in liberals.

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#52 2009-03-21 5:33 am

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Re: careful what you say

No, it's not best if a mod locks this topic. As long as you stay engaged in this conversation, you are, perhaps, less likely to hurt yourself.


"It's better to be a pirate than to join the Navy."

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#53 2009-03-23 11:41 am

Bren
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Re: careful what you say

Are you still with us?


"It's better to be a pirate than to join the Navy."

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#54 2009-04-24 1:39 pm

davic3
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Re: careful what you say

well I'm still here in case anyone was wondering.
just trying to get through to the next day is all I do now
but I am trying


"A bartender is just a pharmacist with a limited inventory."

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#55 2009-04-24 2:12 pm

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Re: careful what you say

That's the spirit.   Keep working everyday at something, and then set aside a few hours in the evening to recharge.

Welcome back.

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#56 2009-04-24 5:03 pm

macforme
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Re: careful what you say

davic3, you are worrying me. Are you seeing a therapist or a counselor at all? I think you really need to find someone to talk to, someone that can understand your feelings better than us interwebs people. As much as I love the MacLife forums, the advice you're going to get will range from utterly absurd to completely useless, with just a sprinkle of helpful thrown in. No one here can truly understand your situation or give you the help that you need. I strongly suggest that you find a trained professional to talk to, and quick.

If you have a church that you attend and feel comfortable at, that may be a good alternative. Most pastors, people that have gone through real pastoral college, will have had training to help people with similar issues. My pastor was trained for crisis counseling and I would recommend someone to see him in a heartbeat. However, a big part of the reason is because I trust him and know him, his wife, and his kids very well. I'm sure I wouldn't feel comfortable with another pastor I didn't know as well.

Whoever you decide to see, please, decide quickly. I'm afraid you need some real help and I, for one, would be very sad to hear that you've decided to do something rash and irreversible. Trust me, you are worth getting help.


"You are coming to a sad realization, cancel or allow?"
...sigh.. "Allow."

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#57 2009-04-24 10:36 pm

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Re: careful what you say

FWIW, I haven't forgotten. Have been hoping for a postback. Hang in.


If all economists were laid end to end, they would not reach a conclusion - George Bernard Shaw

"Fire up a colortini, sit back, relax, and watch the pictures, now, as they fly through the air."

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#58 2009-04-25 9:09 am

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Re: careful what you say

I'm glad you're still alive. The vibe I get from you is that you're not especially eager to talk about yourself or your issues, and that when you do, you immediately feel some kind of shame, and you jump to the conclusion that you are unduly burdening people just by talking about yourself.

Don't jump so quickly to such negative conclusions about yourself. If you found a support group and went there and shared something about your experiences and thoughts, it's entirely possible that the group's members would find it therapeutic to listen to you, and perhaps gain a deeper understanding and perspective about their own struggles.

http://www.afsp.org/


"It's better to be a pirate than to join the Navy."

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#59 2009-04-25 9:26 am

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Re: careful what you say

If I'm at all correct in thinking you don't particularly enjoy talking about this, Davic, then you should pat yourself on the back for the fact that you are talking about it. Extra-big gold star for you!


"It's better to be a pirate than to join the Navy."

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#60 2009-04-29 12:16 am

davic3
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Re: careful what you say

First of all I want to thank you guys for your kind words. I don't think I will be posting anymore here though. I just need to focus on sticking around. I don't have any insurance anymore so I can't go to see anyone. Not that they help anyway. I work 7 days a week so I haven't been to church in a long long long time. I feel the only person I have  to lean on is me and let's face it that isn't so good. lol
Who knows if things start to turn around maybe I'll be back. Whatever happens thanks again


"A bartender is just a pharmacist with a limited inventory."

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#61 2009-04-29 9:39 am

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Re: careful what you say

davic3 - i wish all the best for you and hope things turn around soon for you.

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#62 2009-04-29 10:30 am

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Re: careful what you say

justine wrote:

davic3 - i wish all the best for you and hope things turn around soon for you.

Likewise.


"Now commences the process of cutting off the head, which generally takes from an hour to an hour and a half by an expert workman with a sharp blade." -Reuben Delano, Wanderings and Adventures

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#63 2009-04-29 4:17 pm

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Re: careful what you say

Bren wrote:

..http://homepage.mac.com/oatmeal/MAF/maxes/goldstar.gif for you!


If all economists were laid end to end, they would not reach a conclusion - George Bernard Shaw

"Fire up a colortini, sit back, relax, and watch the pictures, now, as they fly through the air."

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#64 2009-04-29 7:25 pm

mmonte
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Re: careful what you say

dv wrote:

justine wrote:

davic3 - i wish all the best for you and hope things turn around soon for you.

Likewise.

Likewise too. smile


...and the mountains rising nowhere...

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#65 2009-05-02 3:40 pm

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Re: careful what you say

Working seven days a week is enough to turn anybody suicidal! In fact, I think it may actually be a slow form of suicide!

If you've got no kids to support, surely you could trim things back to a merely Herculean six days per week?


"It's better to be a pirate than to join the Navy."

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#66 2009-05-28 8:46 pm

davic3
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Re: careful what you say

I just decided to post an update sine it seems people are checking here. It's funny how fitting the title for this topic is. If someone were to call the police and say davic stole my, insert item here, the police would check it out and if there were no proof be done with it. Now if that same person were to call the police and say davic said they were going to hurt themselves well then it's another mandatory lock up no questions asked. No proof needed just lock em up dope them up and throw away the key. This is exactly what happened a "friend" wanted to talk so we were supposed to meet after I got out of work and chat. They knew of my last incident so that's why they wanted to talk with me. A couple of hours before I got out of work they tell me they wanted to bring a friend who was a counselor along to talk to me. After the last episode the last thing I wanted to deal with was another counselor so I told them I really only wanted to talk with them and no on else. I then said if they brought the counselor I would simply leave since, and pay attention here this is the key, I was sick and tired and did not want to deal with it anymore. Well, that last phrase was enough for the counselor to advise my friend that I was a risk and to call the police. All of a sudden the cops show up at my job and inform me I have to go with them. So I'm hauled out of work put into the back of the squad car and taken to the police station. They get ahold of the hospital and since I had a past incident off I go. I tried to explain but it didn't matter. 5 days later I'm let go with a grand total of 15 minutes spent with the people who are supposed to be helping me. The entire system is such a smurfing joke. All they did was give me a 12,000 bill that I have no clue how I am going to pay. I have gotten more support from the people here than they ever came close to giving me. I am now filled with more anger and trust the system even less than before. What a massive waste of everything. Oh and on top of that my so called friend won't even talk to me now. I really just need to stay away from people.


"A bartender is just a pharmacist with a limited inventory."

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#67 2009-05-28 8:54 pm

justine
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Re: careful what you say

I have nothing to offer, except i'm glad you're ok, and angry. That means you care. I also think you should pass that $15k bill on to your former friend.

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#68 2009-05-28 9:59 pm

Bren
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Re: careful what you say

Did you sign anything obligating you to pay that bill? Even if you did, an argument could be made that you signed under extreme duress. You should get a lawyer.

Furthermore, your friend either has no boundaries or was dealing with a "counselor" who may be guilty of malpractice. No ethical therapist would allow themselves to be sprung upon somebody who is not interested in being their client.

Seriously, get an attorney to at least write letters to the court, to the police department, to your stupid friend, and to your friend's counselor buddy.

Assuming you don't have money to burn on attorney's fees, there are organizations that can advise you, free of charge:

http://www.probono.net/sf/volunteer/ite … d_BayLegal

http://www.volunteercentersbayarea.org/ … inter.html

Regarding what you said about needing to not be around people, I would amend that statement:

You need to not be around people who suck.


"It's better to be a pirate than to join the Navy."

                                            --Steve Jobs

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#69 2009-06-01 8:58 am

Bren
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Re: careful what you say

But, more importantly, how's life treating you today?


"It's better to be a pirate than to join the Navy."

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