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#26 2009-05-28 4:37 am
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Re: My new rig
4890s, OCable near or to a GHz, near $200 after rebate. "I'll be in my bunk, wrestling a rising... um... urge to buy" (/NC)(
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#27 2009-05-28 9:59 am
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Re: My new rig
You need MOAR CPU CORES.
(Man, the minute one of those hits the $200 mark...
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#28 2009-05-28 11:47 am
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Re: My new rig
i can see it now. Quad quads!
I'm not dead yet.
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#29 2009-05-28 11:51 pm
Re: My new rig
Mr. T wrote:
With most sites, you can tell that 92% of the posters ask questions that indicate that they have absolutely no idea what the smurf is going on, each followed by ten rather hypocritical posts by moderators telling the posters to search for information that is spread across twelve different threads that would take several days to track down.
Tell me about it. I saw one site where somebody was recommending hardware, which included the same motherboard as me. Then somebody later asked for installation instructions, and he said "oh, just search the internet." After looking for such information for a few days, that obviously didn't help me much... I've pretty much decided not to bother with it unless it becomes easy to install and I can be sure it will work completely with my hardware and won't screw anything else up.
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#30 2009-05-29 8:23 pm
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Re: My new rig
sturner wrote:
i can see it now. Quad quads!
I'm pretty sure 8 and 16 core units are on the roadmaps. How far out I don't know/remember, but that's just one socket.
Mr. T, I think you need this, esp. as a Green Team kinda guy...
Asus shows off mammoth dual GTX 285 graphics card
4GB of RAM and Quad SLI compatible
PROVING THAT it has never been a company to stick to toeing the tedious line of conformity with reference designs, Asus has just shown us a new monster graphics card that it calls the Mars. It features two GeForce GTX 285 GPUs in SLI configuration, and it also looks like it could double-up as a blunt weapon in Cluedo.
In terms of design, it’s not dissimilar to a GeForce GTX 295. There are two PCBs sandwiched together inside one package, although each of these features 16 memory chips making for a total of 4GB of 1.2GHz (2.4GHz effective) GDDR3 memory. In short, this isn’t a card for anyone running a 32-bit operating system. Asus has also designed its own dual-slot cooler for the card, although it works in a similar way to the reference Nvidia GTX 295 cooler, with a single fan cooling both PCBs.
Interestingly, Asus has decided to spurn Nvidia’s own nForce 200 bridge chip to enable the two PCBs to talk to each other in SLI mode, and has instead used an anonymous third-party chip. One of the interesting innovations here is that, despite the new design, the card will still work with standard Nvidia drivers. The card will be recognised as a GeForce GTX 295, but will still be able to access the features of the GTX 285 GPUs.
Check the pix. Be sure and buy 2! 
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#31 2009-05-30 12:02 am
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Re: My new rig
TWO??
I have THREE slots!!!!!
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#32 2009-05-30 12:21 am
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Re: My new rig
Mr. T wrote:
TWO??
I have THREE slots!!!!!
Ignoring the 1,000w PSU issue, I don't think 6-way SLI is supported...
Despite these differences, though, the compatibility with standard Nvidia drivers means that the card can be set up in Quad SLI configuration with a second Mars card. In fact, to demonstrate the point, Asus sent us this photo of two cards running in Quad SLI mode on a pretty extreme looking test rig in their lab.
And you'd need a boatload of system RAM with 12 GBs of VRAM to address. 

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#33 2009-05-30 12:28 am
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Re: My new rig
Also, those are very thick cards. How far apart are yours spread?
Slots, that is. 
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#34 2009-05-31 2:17 am
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Re: My new rig
dv wrote:
You need MOAR CPU CORES.
(Man, the minute one of those hits the $200 mark...)
Will this do in the meantime? You might be able to afford one within your lifetime.
If you’ve got a multi-socket system (e.g. dual processor Xeon workstation, or Skulltrail successor) or if you’ve got a lot of high bandwidth PCIe devices (e.g. multi-GPU or lots of Larrabees) then QPI makes a whole lot of sense. However, if you’ve got a single socket system and aren’t running a lot of high bandwidth PCIe devices then QPI is overkill.
Intel’s DMI is the link used between the X58 chipset and the ICH10 I/O controller, it’s a much more conservative bus capable of delivering 2 - 4GB/s of bandwidth. That’s enough bandwidth for things like SATA and USB but a single PCIe x16 slot can deliver 16GB/s of bandwidth, far too much for Intel’s DMI.
Instead of crippling graphics on its mainstream platform, Intel did the next best thing and integrated 16 PCIe 2.0 lanes onto the die of its mainstream Nehalem part.
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The price of Intel’s P55 PCH is also much lower than the X58 chipset, in fact P55 is expected to be price competitive with P45 + ICH10. In other words, we should eventually see P55 boards priced at $100 or less.
Getting rid of QPI and one of the three DDR3 channels knocked down the pin-count of LGA-1366, but adding in 16 PCIe 2.0 lanes brought it back up to 1156 which you can count in the socket below:
..
Why, with a good vidcard, you might have an Orion-beater yet this year. 
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#35 2009-06-01 2:22 am
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Re: My new rig
Bat wrote:
Mr. T wrote:
TWO??
I have THREE slots!!!!!
Ignoring the 1,000w PSU issue, I don't think 6-way SLI is supported...
And you'd need a boatload of system RAM with 12 GBs of VRAM to address.
I can manage the 1000W, but I would wager that such a setup sucks up waayy more juice...
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#36 2009-06-01 2:25 am
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Re: My new rig
Bat wrote:
Also, those are very thick cards. How far apart are yours spread?
Slots, that is.
40mm, I think. But, I played it safe and got a 120mm flexible bridge (for the 8800GT, not the Mars
).
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#37 2009-06-16 12:04 am
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Re: My new rig
I haven't updated this in a while.... Too busy fragging 
I ended up getting the GTX 285 for dad's i7 Hack Pro (man's got expensive taste). FSX obviously runs well -- this was key, as this game is "epic fail" on multi-GPU boards. Wasn't the best value but it's a bargain next to the Mac 285.
I've been waiting all this time for the Mac edition to ship, figuring this was the only way I could get the drivers (Apple usually introduces new drivers in system updates). Much to my amazement, I discovered that the drivers have been out in the wild for over a month!
So it's installed now and Nanosaur never ran better!!
(sad truth)
As for me, I ended up getting another 8800GT on ebay. In the few games I've tested (Crysis being the most demanding) the performance between the two setups seemed indistinguishable to my eyes -- too close to call.
As for OS X, I was amazed at how well the EX58-UD5 is supported. With a 100% vanilla install, every feature of this board works flawlessly: sleep, wake, audio, dual LAN, even spdif in and out. If you want to split hairs, the JMicron IDE driver can kp with more than 4GB RAM, so this just means have to stick with SATA
For the actual installation I followed digital digital_dreamer's guide over at insanelymac. I won't post the link, but it's easy to find. It looks a lot more complicated than it is. In fact, the instructions don't even start until "USING THE SCRIPT: INST..." about half-way through his post. Everything before this can be completely ignored, as can everything after the line "Your system is ready for reboot!"
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