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#1 2009-06-23 9:23 am
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R.I.P. Kodachrome
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/scienceandte … o-end.html
as in Kodak
still love the quality from the old 35mm.
oh well. 
that new fangled digital any good? 
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#2 2009-06-23 10:07 am
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Re: R.I.P. Kodachrome
Question:
Everything looks
[ ] better
[ ] worse
in black and white?
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#3 2009-06-23 10:12 am
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Re: R.I.P. Kodachrome
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pinksherbet/250135343/
would that look better in B&W
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#4 2009-06-23 10:33 am
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Re: R.I.P. Kodachrome
B&W adds a certain drama, atmosphere to a picture. Color is warmer.
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#5 2009-06-23 12:30 pm
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Re: R.I.P. Kodachrome
mrreet2001 wrote:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pinksherbet/250135343/
would that look better in B&W
There ya go.
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#6 2009-06-23 2:41 pm
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Re: R.I.P. Kodachrome
it really loses a lot.
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#7 2009-06-23 5:40 pm
Re: R.I.P. Kodachrome
This is a dark day for art. That article obfuscates what a tragedy this is by leading with the crap about boring vacation photos and not bothering to mention pro photographers until several paragraphs down. Hopefully maybe some alternative type of film is available to hobbyists and professionals, but I'm sure they'll assert that whatever the alternative is, it's not quite the same.
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#9 2009-06-23 8:43 pm
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Wow, I can't buy a decent buggy whip anywhere, my analog TV stopped working, and now this.
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#10 2009-06-23 8:58 pm
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Re: R.I.P. Kodachrome
Nothing like Kodachrome. Made Playmates glow...
...or so I've heard.
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#11 2009-06-26 3:57 pm
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Damn you. Now I will have that song in my head for a while.
Damn you all!! 
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#12 2009-06-26 4:05 pm
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Re: R.I.P. Kodachrome
Hate to say it; but nearly all the Pros have gone digital.
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#13 2009-06-26 4:07 pm
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Re: R.I.P. Kodachrome
photoshop > kodachrome
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#14 2009-06-26 6:02 pm
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Re: R.I.P. Kodachrome
Good riddance to all film.
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#15 2009-06-26 6:21 pm
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The faster all film disappears from the face of the earth, the better. We only recently got my mom into digital. For years she kept film.
I used to develop film in the One Hour Photo section at my local Kmart. Film is so analog. So outdated. So.. unnecessarily difficult. Digital is all "Snap, print, done!" I still watch people buy film at the store. FILM IN 2009! Not professionals either. Poor souls who want to take pictures of their kids birthday because they refuse to learn something new.
DOWN WITH FILM! The sooner the better. It took this long for TV to go digital for the same reason. People don't like change and would rather keep using the same outdated methods than learn something new. I'm surprised we're not still riding horses and buggies, and living by candlelight.
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#16 2009-06-26 6:50 pm
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Re: R.I.P. Kodachrome
Digital TV is not superior to analog. Sorry, it just isn't.
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#17 2009-06-26 9:14 pm
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Re: R.I.P. Kodachrome
Tallgeese wrote:
Digital TV is not superior to analog. Sorry, it just isn't.
digital music < analog music as well.
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#19 2009-06-26 10:20 pm
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Re: R.I.P. Kodachrome
Jasoco wrote:
The faster all film disappears from the face of the earth, the better. We only recently got my mom into digital. For years she kept film.
I used to develop film in the One Hour Photo section at my local Kmart. Film is so analog. So outdated. So.. unnecessarily difficult. Digital is all "Snap, print, done!" I still watch people buy film at the store. FILM IN 2009! Not professionals either. Poor souls who want to take pictures of their kids birthday because they refuse to learn something new.
DOWN WITH FILM! The sooner the better. It took this long for TV to go digital for the same reason. People don't like change and would rather keep using the same outdated methods than learn something new. I'm surprised we're not still riding horses and buggies, and living by candlelight.
Digital photography is more convenient, that's for sure. Film has a number of properties, however, that digital has yet to emulate.
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#20 2009-06-27 1:34 am
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Re: R.I.P. Kodachrome
Jasoco wrote:
I used to develop film in the One Hour Photo section at my local Kmart.
Ah, K-Mart! Truly the nexus of professional photography! Let us listen, for this man must have great wisdom!
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#21 2009-06-27 2:13 am
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Tallgeese wrote:
Digital TV is not superior to analog. Sorry, it just isn't.
Roger that. Momski was watching Law & Order the other day, and the audio wasn't properly synced up with the video, so everybody looked like their dialogue had been dubbed, 'cause their lips weren't moving in sync with the words.
This never used to happen back when we didn't have digital cable and digital TV. Now, it happens fairly often, and so do a lot of other weird service anomalies.
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#22 2009-06-27 9:09 am
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Re: R.I.P. Kodachrome
Also, if an analog signal degrades, you get static in your picture/sound. If the digital signal degrades, you get nothing.
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#24 2009-06-27 10:44 am
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Re: R.I.P. Kodachrome
Tallgeese wrote:
Digital TV is not superior to analog. Sorry, it just isn't.
Also, if an analog signal degrades, you get static in your picture/sound. If the digital signal degrades, you get nothing.
You are so wrong on this it isn't even funny. But then again my definition of "digital video" is probably a lot different than yours.
Digital can have signal loss and still manage to give you 100% accuracy in the picture.
Digital video can survive generational copying way better than analog.
(crappy video compression as used by Comcast, Dish and others does not accurately represent digital video)
A/V sync issues are cause by dumb ass cable companies who do not understand that their real time MPEG2/4/H264 video encoders cause a video delay; and the audio must be delayed appropriately.
As far as analog vs. digital audio. Jay Rose (award winning sound engineer) wrote an article for DV magazine proving that to be false. Analog has the same stair-step as digital, but instead it is noise. If digital audio was not better than analog; then they would still be mastering on analog, but they don't because 192Khz 24bit audio kicks analog into the dirt.
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#25 2009-06-27 11:07 am
Re: R.I.P. Kodachrome
Bren wrote:
down. Hopefully maybe some alternative type of film is available to hobbyists and professionals, but I'm sure they'll assert that whatever the alternative is, it's not quite the same.
Velvia, mostly. Easier to process (E-6), and gives similarly vivs colour. Velvia was the first film to really hurt Kodachrome sales.
Jasoco wrote:
I'm surprised we're not still riding horses and buggies, and living by candlelight.
Or making oil paint pictures, for instance. Oh, wait.
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