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Sounds like Perez got what was coming to him.

Still bitter, I see.

At work I generally refer to/address the Swiss machines as "commie fags", at least in casual conversation. In more formal discussions I use their full given names, "hateful commie smurf - I'm a racist cow -". Does that count?

Daddyo wrote:

I know I'm out of touch on this issue but a while back I saw a couple of guys from a group called Queer Nation giving an interview. They wanted the terms queer and fag to be used and accepted, my question is - Are queer and smurf  derogatory terms or acceptable terms? No hidden agenda here, just wondering.

Is smurf a derogatory term or acceptable term?
Same answer.
Depends on who says it and how it's used.

Here you go, Polly!

Keep in mind that within the gay world there's a left/right continuum in terms of anti-assimilationists and assimilationists, and Queer Nation would be to the left, not even left of center -- any civil rights movement has such elements.  But the word "queer" is widely used -- think Queer Studies in terms of college course offerings.

So I'd not take one small group's word in an interview to mean much basically.  You'd think looking up the group on wikipedia would be enough to show you this.

Last edited by bedstuy (2009-06-28 12:23 pm)

Which still doesn't make the use of it right.

resedit wrote:

Tallgeese wrote:

Daddyo wrote:

I know I'm out of touch on this issue but a while back I saw a couple of guys from a group called Queer Nation giving an interview. They wanted the terms queer and fag to be used and accepted, my question is - Are queer and smurf  derogatory terms or acceptable terms? No hidden agenda here, just wondering.

Is smurf a derogatory term or acceptable term?
Same answer.
Depends on who says it and how it's used.

How it's used can make a difference.
Who says it shouldn't matter.

For example, if we were to burn you at the stake, we'd probably pile faggots around you, then light them on fire.

A friend of ours dated a guy (who our friend nicknamed "J.R. Liberace" as dual homage to J.R. from "Dallas" and the famed pianist -he had a chandelier in the bathroom, no joke).

Anyway, J.R. always referred to cigarettes as "fags".
Probably to get a rise out of people.

Perez Hilton?  But he's a "prominent" member of the political left in America!

Hilton is getting negative attention and resentment from parts of the Gay community because he's acting like the self-proclaimed King of Teh Gays.




As far as I know, Elton John is still very much alive.

iSeamas wrote:

A friend of ours dated a guy (who our friend nicknamed "J.R. Liberace" as dual homage to J.R. from "Dallas" and the famed pianist -he had a chandelier in the bathroom, no joke).

Anyway, J.R. always referred to cigarettes as "fags".
Probably to get a rise out of people.

Actually, fags, in refrence to cigarettes is a predominantly British English slang, and was prevelant in the U.S. in the 40's and 50's, lasting up through the 60's.