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It's nice to know that a netbook will only ever be an underpowered machine. Thanks, microsoft!

but seriously, if you limit it to a certain screen size, shouldn't that be it? Otherwise, you're limiting the kind of advances in hardware that manufacturers use to stay competetive. I mean, imposing a goddamn limit on harddrive space? Isn't that a bit much?

ukimalefu wrote:

If there are Hackintoshes, there will be Hackin...Windowses? HackinPCs? Doesn't sound as cool, does it?

Even fake Macs are cooler than fake Windoes PCs.

Wait!!!

They could be called...

Wait for it...

OhNoes!
Or
Picknoes

I like the blah blah blah part.

Bat wrote:

Mr. T wrote:

As it is, most "PC" users run Windows with a WGA crack, at the minimum.

Or not.

Speak for yourself and those you know. No one I know does, to my knowledge.

Harsh.  My school has the full-blown MSDN technology license...  I have legal copies of Windows Vista, XP Pro, Visual Studio 2008, SQL Server 2008, Office 2007/2008, and pretty much anything else I want that's made by Microsoft.  In addition, I have several legal copies of XP laying around, and several more product keys from discarded machines.  In fact, I've never been in the position where I've had to buy a MS product outright (unless it was bundled with a purchased machine), but I certainly would, if such a situation arose.

I speak of my general awareness of the ongoing Windows piracy problem (exaggerated for effect).

EDIT: At times, I might've violated the one license per machine thing.  I honestly don't know the installation limits for any of my MS products, but I haven't had trouble with activation.  Which means I'm either kosher, or within MS' tolerances.

Last edited by Mr. T (2009-08-19 12:41 am)

Bat wrote:

Ok. I think, tho, 'in most cases' is more than slightly exaggerated.

Fair enough.

And just to be clear, I dislike the whole activation scheme more than just about anything else about Windows & related products. I want to be able to make hardware changes/upgrades without type and # to be limited and/or require reinstallation- I've had the whole 'U r a pirate. If u r not a pirate, call 1-800-xxxxxxx and tell us why' trip. It's unpleasant, demeaning and wasteful, and those r its gud points.

The real bitch of it is that pirates don't have to worry about such inconveniences AND they don't have to pay for it. They're being rewarded for their dishonesty.

Bat wrote:

Ok. I think, tho, 'in most cases' is more than slightly exaggerated.

I only personally know of one person who has an illegal OS...
But I think changing it to 'in a lot of cases' would make it fairly accurate.

but since I'm a "well known troll on piracy/copyright matters" not sure if my opinion matters.

I tend to believe that apple rolls some or all of the "mac tax" into os development.  I have never been able to confirm that though. On the MS side of things ... yeah I bet if they reduced the cost of windows / office by 50% more than 3 times the people would legally acquire it. But all of that is pure speculation.

Last edited by mrreet2001 (2009-08-19 9:09 am)

By the way, don't you think that a whole lot of people are going to take advantage of the $29 upgrade to Snow Leopard? It's the best deal since the Mac OS was upgraded for free.

I would prefer a full osx for the mac tablet. I am not sure I would use it much if it wasn't. I already have a 1st gen touch and an iphone 3GS. and for the sake of the apps future and current I think it would be a bad move to integrate hardware so different into the same store / system.

Actually, I got the above a bit wrong. Copies of Vista have for some time included a coupon for a free upgrade version of 7; I had in mind an analysts' suggestion that Vista buyers should get a free copy of 7.

Going back a few months, they sort of do, tho I'd rather a full standalone copy anyday. Still, it's something.

And for once, the Brits are getting a break.

The British get cheaper copies of Windows 7

Usually on the short end of the stick when it comes to pricing, the British finally have some good news to cheer about.  The UK will be receiving special pricing on the Windows 7 that will make full versions of the software cheaper than the upgrade edition in the U.S.  The U.S. is, meanwhile, left out for once.

A full version of Windows Home Premium -- not an upgrade edition -- will weigh in at £65 (57 percent off), while in the U.S. the upgrade version alone costs $120 (£72).  In the U.S. the full version costs considerably more -- $200 (£122). 

As the UK is part of the European Union, this pricing may be extended to other parts of the EU, but it is unknown if Microsoft will do so.  The version will be the full copy of Windows 7 and include Internet Explorer 8, included thanks to a last minute deal with the EU to include a browser ballot screen.

UK Gets Windows 7 Full Versions at Half Price, U.S. Left Out

(After the Word ruling, I wonder if the TX price will be double? )