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#1 2009-08-01 3:23 pm
- RavenShadow
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Computer unreasonably slow
Hi all,
I've been trying to play a variety of games lately, from Call of Duty 4 to Age of Empires 3, and they are slower than they ought to be.
My computer is a 2.33 Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo Macbook Pro with 2 GB of 667 Mhz DDR2 SDRAM and 150GB capacity, of which 20-30 is typically free.
I set the settings to high and games are unplayable. I set them to medium and they're playable, but not great.
Is there a good guide on what I can do to speed up my mac for gaming? I've been looking at games playable via Cider and that's what I want to try next, but I fear them being ungodly slow.
I think this is something about me rather than my computer, because all of my computers have seemed to go much slower than they ought. Could I have too many files or something? I let maintanence tasks run.
Anyway, thanks for the help in advance!
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#2 2009-08-01 7:06 pm
- gd
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Re: Computer unreasonably slow
How much is left of your HD. Open Activity Monitor to check what eats processor and gpu cycles the most after the games. Try quitting all apps before you play.
Do you sleep your computer or do you turn it off?
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#3 2009-08-01 9:25 pm
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He already mentioned that he has 20-30 GB free on his HDD, so that's fine. Activity Monitor will only tell you CPU activity, not GPU activity.
What GPU do you have? Laptop GPUs generally aren't as powerful as their desktop counterparts, and IIRC Apple underclocks their laptop GPUs on top of that. You're just going to have to get used to the fact that you're going to have to turn down the graphics settings. Another option is to install Windows through Bootcamp and get the Windows versions of all your games. Those games were originally made for DirectX, and will run faster through that. On top of that, Apple's OpenGL drivers tend to be a little slower as well, so you'll likely gain a few FPS by playing the Windows versions.
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#4 2009-08-02 12:18 am
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Re: Computer unreasonably slow
Maybe buying a copy of windows is not in his budget, so buying games he already has would just be even more money to spend; assumming he is on a budget.
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#5 2009-08-02 1:48 am
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Re: Computer unreasonably slow
Budget or not, akb's just stating the facts: Graphics is a weak point of almost all laptops. Gaming in Windows would definitely help, for the reasons stated. But even with Windows, the OP would probably still need to turn down the graphics (just not as much).
Or if budget isn't an issue, throw together a $400-$500 desktop. (I'm sorry, I like building things
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#6 2009-08-03 1:27 am
Re: Computer unreasonably slow
Why do you think the games are slower than they ought to be? You have a slow laptop and you're trying to run slow OS X ports of high end games on high settings.
For a start, what model of MBP do you have? If you have the oldest one with a Radeon X1600 then it's always going to be slow for games like COD4 (although AOE3 should be OK on medium settings.)
As mentioned, the best way to get a speed boost is to install Windows and to play the Windows versions of those games.
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#7 2009-08-03 8:13 am
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Yea, using Desktop PC is recommended for gamer.
Recommended hardware; HD velociraptor, core2duo E8190, 4GB RAM, and GeForce 8600 GT.
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#8 2009-08-12 1:35 pm
- RavenShadow
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Re: Computer unreasonably slow
Wow, thanks, everyone! An outpouring of support and help from the Mac community... no surprise there :-)
I'll check my GPU this evening when I get home from work. I assume it's nothing special, and simply whatever comes with the laptop.
akb825, as a hypothetical concerning bootcamp:
I love the Elder Scrolls game Oblivion, after playing it on a friend's computer. Let's say I got a Ciderized copy of it and installed on my Mac. And it follows suit with the other games I have and seems fairly slow.
Then consider, hypothetically, I borrow/buy it from him and install Bootcamp and get it running. Would it even be worth trying it on Bootcamp, or is it likely to not be appreciably faster?
In other words, is the limiting factor my CPU speed or the coding in the game?
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#9 2009-08-12 10:07 pm
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Likely the limiting factor is the graphics rather than the CPU. There are three main factors slowing down the graphics in general:
1. The fact that laptops have weaker graphics cards than on other platforms.
2. The fact that Cider must translate the original DirectX graphics to OpenGL graphics.
3. The fact that Apple's OpenGL graphics drivers tend to be a bit slower than on, say, Windows.
Running on boot camp, issue number 1 will still be a problem. However, you will be able to eliminate issues 2 and 3. You shouldn't expect any miracles, but it should make the game run a bit smoother. In other words, if it's completely unplayable it likely won't be worth it. However, if it's playable but maybe a bit slow or you would like to bump up the graphics just a little, then you should notice an improvement in boot camp.
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#10 2009-08-21 1:29 pm
- RavenShadow
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Re: Computer unreasonably slow
Thanks everyone!
I can run it on my laptop in OS X, but it is slow and I have to turn the graphics way down. I'll try bootcamp, because I'd prefer not to have to build a gaming rig. Though I probably will if need be.
Now if anybody could tell me where my installation discs are since they're needed for the bootcamp process, that would be great... :-)
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#11 2009-08-21 1:39 pm
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Re: Computer unreasonably slow
RavenShadow wrote:
Now if anybody could tell me where my installation discs are since they're needed for the bootcamp process, that would be great... :-)
mine are on a shelf on my desk with all my apple software... though I used to keep the disks in the computer's box which are normally stored in the garage or under the bed. 
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#12 2009-08-21 1:40 pm
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oh and I think GD's disks are in his parents room .. or maybe those were the disks for his sister's laptop. 
2.66Ghz QuadCore-Nehalem w/24"LED CD ---2.2Ghz BlackMB---15" 2.4Ghz MBP(work)
Dual 2.3Ghz G5 (4G Ram, 2x 250G HD)(10.5 server)--- 400Mhz G4 PM (10.4 Server)
1.5GHz Powerbook---1.6Ghz G5 iMac
"So he fels down in a poisoning gas."
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