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#1 2009-09-04 3:19 am

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[linux] - resedit goes ubuntu

One of the nice things about CentOS is that it uses stable tried and true packages.
That's also one of the down sides.

I just bought the fluendo multimedia codec packages. They work splendidly (tested with several wma files and an h.264 trailer) playing wma files that neither mplayer nor xine got right (lack of audio, screwed up video) and it does a much better job at h.264.

So now I want to try and get it in the browser. The version of totem-gstreamer plugin for my totem won't work with latest browsers, building newer totem is impossible without upgrading gnome, not going to do it. The gstreamer backend to FireFox 3.5 html5 video isn't ready yet. But - the gtk port of webkit uses gstreamer backend for html5 multimedia, so theoretically I could build epiphany with webkit backend and via the fluendo plugins get both h.264 and aac support right in the browser (along with ogg vorbis/theora and probably mp3 as well)

First step is building webkit. Webkit doesn't like my version of libsoup, wants newer. Fortunately newer libsoup easily installs side by side with stock libsoup. But ... newer libsoup wants newer glib2 - and that doesn't install side by side.

So - I'm about to replace my distro provided glib2 with an updated version. The major library version is the same so in theory it should go smoothly, but in theory ... wink

Fortunately glib2 is only necessary for gnome, if it goes badly - I can always use the cli to restore stock glib2.

Hopefully though I'll eventually end up with a build of epiphany that support html5 media for not only ogg formats, but h.264 as well (and all legal 100% legal with royalties paid through fluendo plugins).

fluendo also sells a dvd player that legally decrypts dvd's - but it gets crappy reviews, so I'll have to stick with xine and crack encryption. But the fluendo plugins work really well for playing of many proprietary formats.

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#2 2009-09-05 7:48 am

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Re: [linux] - resedit goes ubuntu

OK - the CentOS glib2 update went well but I still couldn't get gtk webkit installed, other libraries I couldn't replace were just too crusty.

So I cleared a disk and installed ubuntu, and found a repo with webkit-gtk and installed a couple webkit browsers. Seems the gstreamer html5 thing is disabled, may be a developer branch or something.

Ubuntu boots really fast, but has some annoyances. But I'm sure I'll get use to them.
Even though I don't get to play with html5 media w/ gstreamer backend, I did get to play with more modern media libraries, and now have a nice shell script that eats my dv files and spits out both ogg theora and h.264.

Additionally, I found a cool flash player called flowerpower or something like that (OK - it's flowplayer, but flowerpower sounds better) that solves a big problem.

Now instead of using cortado (java player) as a fallback for non html5 media browsers I can use flash player w/ h.264. I still need to do a little tweaking of my code but it works, and is much nicer than the java player.


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#3 2009-09-05 9:46 am

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Re: [linux] - resedit goes ubuntu

Are you using the Xian version of ubuntu?


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#4 2009-09-05 12:07 pm

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Re: [linux] - resedit goes ubuntu

No - I chmod 666 all the daemons to give them more power, lest they be cast out wink

I'm running 9.0.4.
Desktop edition.

I really like the fact that apt tracks packages installed as dependencies so they can be auto-magically removed, that's nice.

I hate the default theme though. What, do they think we all work for UPS?

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#5 2009-09-05 8:04 pm

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Re: [linux] - resedit goes ubuntu

No - I chmod 666 all the daemons to give them more power, lest they be cast out

Exploiting your machine must be a joy.

Hey, wait a minute! That means that they can't do a damn thing. big_smile

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#6 2009-09-07 8:10 am

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Re: [linux] - resedit goes ubuntu

jerwin wrote:

No - I chmod 666 all the daemons to give them more power, lest they be cast out

Exploiting your machine must be a joy.

Hey, wait a minute! That means that they can't do a damn thing. big_smile

Yeah you are right.
Instead what I did was chmod 666 everything else so the daemons could have free reign to do whatever they want.


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#7 2009-09-08 10:48 pm

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Re: [linux] - resedit goes ubuntu

That just made my day a little bit better.


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#8 2009-09-09 9:25 am

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Re: [linux] - resedit goes ubuntu

I'm seriously thinking about switching to Ubuntu full time.
The only hitch is the servers I admin all run CentOS - some with a customized php that I maintain - so I need to have local access to CentOS both for compiling and testing / troubleshooting.

But Ubuntu seems to have a lot of the advantages of Fedora (fresher packages) without many of the rough edges that tend not to get solved in Fedora until they are just about ready to release a new version.

I don't like the way debian packages are built, I really think rpm is superior - and I have to find a good equivalent to mock for building packages - but so far, I've not had to build crap myself. There's PPA repos that have fresh modern versions of whatever I need that isn't in main (multimedia stuff and the webkit based browsers I'm playing with).

My only major complaint is that when I asked it to install flash, it wanted to download the i386 version along with all the crap and bloat needed to run i386 plugins in x86_64. Even though x86_64 flash is beta, they should either package it or point users to it rather than pull in an i386 plugin. The beta x86_64 plugin works fantastically for 99.99% of things.


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