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#1 2009-09-12 7:24 am
- Bat
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Wall St. one year on
NEW YORK (NYT) - Wall Street lives on.
One year after the collapse of Lehman Brothers, the surprise is not how much has changed in the financial industry, but how little.
Backstopped by huge federal guarantees, the biggest banks have restructured only around the edges. Employment in the industry has fallen just 8 percent since last September. Only a handful of big hedge funds have closed. Pay is already returning to precrash levels, topped by the 30,000 employees of Goldman Sachs, who are on track to earn an average of $700,000 this year. Nor are major pay cuts likely, according to a report last week from J.P. Morgan Securities. Executives at most big banks have kept their jobs. Financial stocks have soared since their winter lows.
The Obama administration has proposed regulatory changes, but even their backers say they face a difficult road in Congress. For now, banks still sell and trade unregulated derivatives, despite their role in last fall’s chaos. Radical changes like pay caps or restrictions on bank size face overwhelming resistance. Even minor changes, like requiring banks to disclose more about the derivatives they own, are far from certain.
Coming on the same weekend as the 11th-hour bailout of the giant insurer American International Group, and the sale of Merrill Lynch, Lehman’s failure was the climax of a cataclysmic weekend in the financial industry. In the days that followed, nearly everyone seemed to agree that Wall Street was due for fundamental change. Its “heads I win, tails I’m bailed out” model could not continue. Its eight-figure paydays would end.
In fact, though, regulators and lawmakers have spent most of the last year trying to save the financial industry, rather than transform it. In the short run, their efforts have succeeded. Citigroup and other wounded banks have avoided bankruptcy, and the economy has sidestepped a depression. But the same investors and economists who predicted, and in some cases profited from, the collapse last fall say the rescue has come at an extraordinary cost. They warn that if the industry’s systemic risks are not addressed, they could cause an even bigger crisis — in years, not decades. Next time, they say, the credit of the United States government may be at risk.
Unfettered capitalism at work, it seems, yet socialism is a terrible epithet still. At this rate my head asplode soon from sheer cognitive dissonance.
They've even invented new debt instruments recently, bundling new 'assets,', 'securitizing.' Greed is good.
Aiieeee.
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#2 2009-09-12 12:14 pm
- Tallgeese
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Re: Wall St. one year on
The traditional conservative response is "the market failed because it wasn't free enough".
I still believe in liberalism today as much as I ever did, but, oh, there was a happy time when I believed in liberals.
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#3 2009-09-12 12:49 pm
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Re: Wall St. one year on
Tallgeese wrote:
The traditional conservative response is "the market failed because it wasn't free enough".
I'm one of the many people who was duped into getting a loan that I couldn't afford because my bank had to follow regulations. Damn you goverment regulations for forcing my banker to talk me into that $500 000 house, the jetski and the pony! If it wasn't for government regulation my $23 000 dollar income would have paid for that handily! END TAXES NOW!
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#4 2009-09-13 11:16 am
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Re: Wall St. one year on
Tallgeese wrote:
The traditional conservative response is "the market failed because it wasn't free enough".
Actually the market failed due to lots of banking...oh smurf it...
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#6 2009-09-13 6:06 pm
- ShnickyShnack
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Re: Wall St. one year on
Tallgeese wrote:
The traditional conservative response is "the market failed because it wasn't free enough".
Don't forget "they knew they could count on getting bailed out."
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#7 2009-09-13 7:07 pm
- ShnickyShnack
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Re: Wall St. one year on
In the news: Obama to push for banking overhaul
Speaking just 10 days before the start of the G20 summit in Pittsburgh – at which world leaders are set to discuss curtailing bankers' bonuses among a raft of potentially restrictive reforms – he will also put the amount of capital banks hold on their balance sheets back at the top of the agenda, acknowledging that the demise of Lehman and Bear Stearns were a by-product of inadequate capital requirements.
In a wide-reaching speech on the need for regulatory reform in order to avert another financial crisis he will call on the US Senate banking committee to kick-start work on these reforms as soon as possible.
Speaking from Federal Hall on Wall Street, just steps from the New York Stock Exchange, President Obama will stress that regulators and legislators not only in the US, but around the world, need to take the next steps to tighten financial regulation.
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#8 2009-09-13 7:08 pm
- Tallgeese
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I was referring to the traditional response, which I have heard used to explain everything from 19th century sweatshops to Tyson Foods.
I still believe in liberalism today as much as I ever did, but, oh, there was a happy time when I believed in liberals.
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#9 2009-09-13 7:09 pm
- sturner
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Re: Wall St. one year on
Tallgeese wrote:
I was referring to the traditional response, which I have heard used to explain everything from 19th century sweatshops to Tyson Foods.
They don't have to work in sweatshops, they can quit and go find better jobs.
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