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#26 2009-09-17 7:15 pm

daemon
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Re: So if there's no health care reform, then ...

House 3. HELP Committee is one. Ways and Means another. I forget the other.
Senate HELP Committee (the late EMK's chair)


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#27 2009-09-17 8:09 pm

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Re: So if there's no health care reform, then ...

ShnickyShnack wrote:

freecat wrote:

ShnickyShnack wrote:

That Senate bill is a piece of crap.

How can it offer so little and cost so much? It makes Medicare Part D look budget-friendly.

Most of the spending goes to subsidies to allow lower-income people to buy medical insurance.

Let's just round up and say it's a trillion dollars over ten years. You can't get a public option for that? Why not do away with indirect subsidies, mandates, etc. and just offer the public option if it's so damned important to have a low-cost insurance option for the working poor?

Yes, yes, I know Tallgeese answered already. Rent-seeking, Tullock rectangles abound, etc.

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#28 2009-09-17 9:07 pm

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Re: So if there's no health care reform, then ...

freecat wrote:

ShnickyShnack wrote:

freecat wrote:


How can it offer so little and cost so much? It makes Medicare Part D look budget-friendly.

Most of the spending goes to subsidies to allow lower-income people to buy medical insurance.

Let's just round up and say it's a trillion dollars over ten years. You can't get a public option for that?

You can pay for it, sure. Getting it thru Congress is the problem.


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#29 2009-09-17 10:36 pm

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Re: So if there's no health care reform, then ...

freecat wrote:

ShnickyShnack wrote:

freecat wrote:


How can it offer so little and cost so much? It makes Medicare Part D look budget-friendly.

Most of the spending goes to subsidies to allow lower-income people to buy medical insurance.

Let's just round up and say it's a trillion dollars over ten years. You can't get a public option for that? Why not do away with indirect subsidies, mandates, etc. and just offer the public option if it's so damned important to have a low-cost insurance option for the working poor?

Yes, yes, I know Tallgeese answered already. Rent-seeking, Tullock rectangles abound, etc.

The public option doesn't enrich the corporate elite, for whose benefit the country is run.


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#30 2009-09-17 10:41 pm

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Re: So if there's no health care reform, then ...

ShnickyShnack wrote:

freecat wrote:

ShnickyShnack wrote:


Most of the spending goes to subsidies to allow lower-income people to buy medical insurance.

Let's just round up and say it's a trillion dollars over ten years. You can't get a public option for that? Why not do away with indirect subsidies, mandates, etc. and just offer the public option if it's so damned important to have a low-cost insurance option for the working poor?

Yes, yes, I know Tallgeese answered already. Rent-seeking, Tullock rectangles abound, etc.

The public option doesn't enrich the corporate elite, for whose benefit the country is run.

No, but it is backdoor reparations according to Glenn Beck.  And if they don't get their reparations then white kids will get pummeled on school buses.

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#31 2009-09-18 10:34 am

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Re: So if there's no health care reform, then ...

bedstuy wrote:

ShnickyShnack wrote:

freecat wrote:


Let's just round up and say it's a trillion dollars over ten years. You can't get a public option for that? Why not do away with indirect subsidies, mandates, etc. and just offer the public option if it's so damned important to have a low-cost insurance option for the working poor?

Yes, yes, I know Tallgeese answered already. Rent-seeking, Tullock rectangles abound, etc.

The public option doesn't enrich the corporate elite, for whose benefit the country is run.

No, but it is backdoor reparations according to Glenn Beck.  And if they don't get their reparations then white kids will get pummeled on school buses.

Well certainly black people are basically God. Everything that happens is part of their Plan.


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#32 2009-09-18 10:47 am

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Re: So if there's no health care reform, then ...

ShnickyShnack wrote:

bedstuy wrote:

ShnickyShnack wrote:


The public option doesn't enrich the corporate elite, for whose benefit the country is run.

No, but it is backdoor reparations according to Glenn Beck.  And if they don't get their reparations then white kids will get pummeled on school buses.

Well certainly black people are basically God. Everything that happens is part of their Plan.

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#33 2009-09-18 12:13 pm

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Re: So if there's no health care reform, then ...

Amen!


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#34 2009-09-18 12:18 pm

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Re: So if there's no health care reform, then ...

Wait, so when did we move from the Jews controlling everything to black people controlling everything?


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#35 2009-09-18 12:18 pm

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Re: So if there's no health care reform, then ...

Round about last November.


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#36 2009-09-18 12:34 pm

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Damn, now I have no ties to power.


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#37 2009-09-18 12:37 pm

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Re: So if there's no health care reform, then ...

robco wrote:

Damn, now I have no ties to power.

We might be able to work something out if you're "accommodating".
wink


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#38 2009-09-18 12:46 pm

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Re: So if there's no health care reform, then ...

Well, if the stereotype has any truth to it, I'll need to be...


It is an odd thing, but every one who disappears is said to be seen at San Francisco. It must be a delightful city, and possess all the attractions of the next world.
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#39 2009-09-18 1:00 pm

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Re: So if there's no health care reform, then ...

robco wrote:

Damn, now I have no ties to power.

The banks are still run by Jews.


I still believe in liberalism today as much as I ever did, but, oh, there was a happy time when I believed in liberals.

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#40 2009-09-18 5:28 pm

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Re: So if there's no health care reform, then ...

Beddy has all the power now.  I can raise an army of black men in 10 seconds with my address book.

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#41 2009-09-18 6:07 pm

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Re: So if there's no health care reform, then ...

Yeah, well I can raise an army of Jewish black men!


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#42 2009-09-18 7:13 pm

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Re: So if there's no health care reform, then ...

Ten people isn't an army.


I still believe in liberalism today as much as I ever did, but, oh, there was a happy time when I believed in liberals.

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#43 2009-09-18 7:21 pm

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Re: So if there's no health care reform, then ...

And Sammy's still dead.


Aw, he's no fun, he fell right over.

Unless you become as little children, there's no way you will believe this crap.

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#44 2009-09-19 5:28 pm

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Re: So if there's no health care reform, then ...

ShnickyShnack wrote:

I was just reading how the whole industry is very happy about this new bill. And why shouldn't they? All it does is shovel out more money to get more people into the existing system without doing anything to reform it.

Its like solving the problem of people who are homeless by mandating that all Americans must buy a house.


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#45 2009-09-19 10:15 pm

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Re: So if there's no health care reform, then ...

"So if there's no health care reform, then ..."

Most of us are smurfed?


...and watch out for the flying meat!

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#46 2009-09-20 1:01 am

daemon
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Re: So if there's no health care reform, then ...

[MA] Flying_Meat wrote:

"So if there's no health care reform, then ..."

Most of us are smurfed?

I was tempted to say that straightaway.

Thank you.


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