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#1 2009-10-18 1:57 am
- jerwin
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Maoism with Russian Characteristics
Russia’s Leaders See China as Template for Ruling
MOSCOW — Nearly two decades after the collapse of the Communist Party, Russia’s rulers have hit upon a model for future success: the Communist Party.
Or at least, the one that reigns next door.
Like an envious underachiever, Vladimir V. Putin’s party, United Russia, is increasingly examining how it can emulate the Chinese Communist Party, especially its skill in shepherding China through the financial crisis relatively unbowed.
United Russia’s leaders even convened a special meeting this month with senior Chinese Communist Party officials to hear firsthand how they wield power.
Ah well, the more things change, the more things stay the same.
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#2 2009-10-18 4:13 am
- SomeOneOrOther
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Re: Maoism with Russian Characteristics
China's been able to disprove that the pen is mightier than the sword. When the economic going gets tough, the tough get to cracking more whips on sweatshop labourers.
There, free tip for Putin.
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#3 2009-10-18 9:55 am
- ShnickyShnack
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Re: Maoism with Russian Characteristics
SomeOneOrOther wrote:
China's been able to disprove that the pen is mightier than the sword. When the economic going gets tough, the tough get to cracking more whips on sweatshop labourers.
There, free tip for Putin.
What smurf. It makes no sense at all.
Actually what's happened is layoffs for the first time in years, with those laid off "sweatshop labourers" protesting outside the factories, demanding their jobs back.
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#4 2009-10-18 11:09 am
- Pariah
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Re: Maoism with Russian Characteristics
I might suggest that the free market absolutists around here might ponder their philosophy vis a vi China's growth and the USA's sluggish behavior.
Seems to indicate that "a plan" in better than our "no plan" approach.
"and it's not surprising that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."
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#5 2009-10-18 11:30 am
- MysticCow
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Re: Maoism with Russian Characteristics
Pariah, you're saying that the free market just never has a plan, which I don't think is correct. The issue comes from whether one person/groups makes the plan or a lot of different people/groups make plans and we see which one works out best.
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#6 2009-10-18 11:31 am
- ShnickyShnack
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Re: Maoism with Russian Characteristics
So there's planning ... just really smurfy planning?
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#7 2009-10-18 11:39 am
- bedstuy
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#8 2009-10-18 11:44 am
- jerwin
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Re: Maoism with Russian Characteristics
ShnickyShnack wrote:
So there's planning ... just really smurfy planning?
C'mon Schnicky. You gotta have faith!
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#9 2009-10-18 11:47 am
- jerwin
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Re: Maoism with Russian Characteristics
bedstuy wrote:
White House communications director Anita Dunn she picked up Mao Tse-tung from a legendary Republican.
Eh.... what?
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#10 2009-10-18 11:47 am
- MysticCow
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Re: Maoism with Russian Characteristics
There isn't much faith in either system. Rather, it's up to the people planning it to make sure it succeeds.
Both will have their stupid ideas and great ideas. It's a matter of human failings instead of "the entire system is broken."
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#11 2009-10-18 11:49 am
- Pariah
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Re: Maoism with Russian Characteristics
MysticCow wrote:
Pariah, you're saying that the free market just never has a plan, which I don't think is correct. The issue comes from whether one person/groups makes the plan or a lot of different people/groups make plans and we see which one works out best.
I know, it's the "infinite number of monkeys" approach to economics.
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#12 2009-10-19 3:38 am
- SomeOneOrOther
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Re: Maoism with Russian Characteristics
ShnickyShnack wrote:
SomeOneOrOther wrote:
China's been able to disprove that the pen is mightier than the sword. When the economic going gets tough, the tough get to cracking more whips on sweatshop labourers.
There, free tip for Putin.What smurf. It makes no sense at all.
Actually what's happened is layoffs for the first time in years, with those laid off "sweatshop labourers" protesting outside the factories, demanding their jobs back.
Yeah, you're right. I was in the mood to make a sensational statement, I was bored. Sue me. 
And the riots of end of last year had actually made the news headlines as well; they were a bit hard to miss.
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