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#26 2009-10-14 1:24 pm

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Re: 12 Apple Products that Failed Miserably

jerwin wrote:

The TAM, released two years later, was ... with charcoal-grey blacks, shaky contrast, and uncontrollable motion blur.

You've seen a TAM, up close?

Nope, but I've seen state of the art LCD technology in 1997.  Best case scenario, it would've been terrible.  Even if it were magically somehow on par with modern LCDs in areas like response time, contrast, and black levels (which it isn't), the listed specs are bad enough.

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#27 2009-10-14 7:00 pm

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Re: 12 Apple Products that Failed Miserably

No worse than a top of the line powerbook


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#28 2009-10-14 11:16 pm

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Re: 12 Apple Products that Failed Miserably

True, but this was a $7,500 desktop.  In the tech world, being too early is worse than being too late.  And in 1997, LCD technology was not an acceptable alternative to CRT --it was a sacrifice, made for the sake of portability.  The TAM was still a great concept (as evidenced by the success of the modern iMac), but 5 years too early, and exorbitantly overpriced.


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#29 2009-10-14 11:20 pm

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Re: 12 Apple Products that Failed Miserably

A huge chunk of that price was the Bose speakers IIRC, and it was supposed to be a collectors item, hence the surcharge and the design.

However as ebay demonstrates, its value has gone down, so not much of a collectors item.

I'd much rather have a G4 Cube on my desk.

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#30 2009-10-14 11:57 pm

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Re: 12 Apple Products that Failed Miserably

Some1 wrote:

A huge chunk of that price was the Bose speakers IIRC, and it was supposed to be a collectors item, hence the surcharge and the design.

However as ebay demonstrates, its value has gone down, so not much of a collectors item.

I'd much rather have a G4 Cube on my desk.

Even with the mold lines? wink


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#31 2009-10-15 1:19 am

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Re: 12 Apple Products that Failed Miserably

Yeah, computers as collectors items is a bit of a wash.
Only extremely rare *and* old computers are worth more than their initial RRP, off the top of my head there's the Apple I and the original Macintosh if in good condition. Everything else is worth far less, although prices are slowly creeping up over time.

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#32 2009-10-15 5:28 pm

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Re: 12 Apple Products that Failed Miserably

Mr. T wrote:

True, but this was a $7,500 desktop.  In the tech world, being too early is worse than being too late.  And in 1997, LCD technology was not an acceptable alternative to CRT --it was a sacrifice, made for the sake of portability.  The TAM was still a great concept (as evidenced by the success of the modern iMac), but 5 years too early, and exorbitantly overpriced.

The TAM really turned out to be pretty smurfy. The modest cpu, (a 180mhz 603e if I remember correctly) had over heating problems and there were problem with the sound system that could not be fixed so Apple ended up giving quite a few TAM owners generous credit on new regular Macs to replace the defective TAMs.

But they looked smurfing awesome and Alfred had one in Batman so.....wish I had one smile

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#33 2009-10-15 5:53 pm

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Re: 12 Apple Products that Failed Miserably

Seinfeld had one too, iirc.  Sure is purty; can't argue with that.


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#34 2009-10-20 5:06 pm

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Re: 12 Apple Products that Failed Miserably

You still see TAMs working and pushing the old OS video onscreen in movies. Children of Men for example.

This IS a smurf list, though. The Newton a failure?

Tired of people calling the Pippin "Apple's" failure, too. Apple licensed out the tech, Bandai failed the implementation and sales.


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#35 2009-10-24 1:43 pm

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Re: 12 Apple Products that Failed Miserably

Something I think is very important to say in this discussion is that without failure, there is no innovation! Apple has always been a deep source of ideas in the electronics and computing world. Their failures are relatively few (and generally not in that list of 12 products) for what they have given to the industry and consumers. In terms of technological successes, Apple is way in front of all other PC box builders. Any time I see lists of failures, I lmfao because one thing you can count on is that one persons failure is another's success. So, I say, "Fail away, then find a way.".

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#36 2009-10-24 6:07 pm

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Re: 12 Apple Products that Failed Miserably

As Thomas Jefferson once said, "I haven't failed, I've just found 10,000 ways it doesn't work".

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#37 2009-10-24 9:28 pm

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Re: 12 Apple Products that Failed Miserably

Edison.


Aw, he's no fun, he fell right over.

Unless you become as little children, there's no way you will believe this crap.

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#38 2009-10-24 9:48 pm

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Re: 12 Apple Products that Failed Miserably

smurf bang I knew that

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