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#26 2009-10-26 6:38 pm

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Re: Drag queens invade hillbilly heartland

No, I disagree. They are basing their decisions upon moral. You can be morals, yet unethical. I know lots of people in business like that.

You can be ethical, and not considered moral because you don't subscribe or follow the teachings of a religion.

Ethically they have a responsibility to accept the drag queens. Morally, they abjure them.


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#27 2009-10-26 6:39 pm

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Re: Drag queens invade hillbilly heartland

As a political tactic I don't think having a drag show in a religiously conservative area does anything to promote gay rights or anything else for that matter.


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#28 2009-10-26 6:42 pm

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Re: Drag queens invade hillbilly heartland

It is a little like the National Socialist Party of America parading in through Skokie, Illinois.


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#29 2009-10-27 6:07 pm

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Re: Drag queens invade hillbilly heartland

Why do you hate Illinois Nazis? They're such great comic foils.


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#30 2009-10-27 6:33 pm

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Re: Drag queens invade hillbilly heartland

Pariah wrote:

As a political tactic I don't think having a drag show in a religiously conservative area does anything to promote gay rights or anything else for that matter.

I think they are doing it there specifically to instigate a reaction.
Another reason the "but the cancer cause" argument is bunk.


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#31 2009-10-27 6:38 pm

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Re: Drag queens invade hillbilly heartland

resedit wrote:

Pariah wrote:

As a political tactic I don't think having a drag show in a religiously conservative area does anything to promote gay rights or anything else for that matter.

I think they are doing it there specifically to instigate a reaction.

I would have to agree, and add that the tactic is working wonderfully.  They are getting the media coverage they need, after all.  Posting friendly notes about tolerance around town just doesn't seem to get the job done.

It also annoys groups of religious conservatives, too.  I can't say that this was among their intentions, but it's most certainly among their results.  I can't see that being considered "collateral damage."


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#32 2009-10-27 6:44 pm

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Re: Drag queens invade hillbilly heartland

Right - and since they are getting what they wanted, I have trouble feeling any sympathy for them.

Two kids from my old church wore shirts with bible verses about homosexuality on them to school and were told to change their shirts and suspended when they didn't.

They tried to complain about first amendment,  and failed to get anyone to champion their cause.
Even the church pastor said what they did was wrong.

They wore those shirts specifically looking for a confrontation. They got what they were looking for, no sympathy from me.


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#33 2009-10-27 7:42 pm

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Re: Drag queens invade hillbilly heartland

resedit wrote:

Pariah wrote:

As a political tactic I don't think having a drag show in a religiously conservative area does anything to promote gay rights or anything else for that matter.

I think they are doing it there specifically to instigate a reaction.
Another reason the "but the cancer cause" argument is bunk.

Yep.


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