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#1 2009-10-21 3:02 pm

Nekollx
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Optomize a Mac?

My 2008 Mac Pro Towers been acting really slow and ornery the last month or so and was wondering if there was anything (short of "buy a new one") I can do. I haven't installed anything new, not even Forest Tiger...er Snow Leopard, just update and make new files in existing apps.

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#2 2009-10-21 5:11 pm

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Re: Optomize a Mac?

There are 2 groups of optimization:  system and disk.

First, a pair of questions of disk and ram.   1) check your "About This Mac" or System Profiler to make sure all of your RAM chips are working.   2) How much empty disk space is on the Mac Pro ?   My guideline is to always have at least 10 gb of empty disk space and also to make sure the empty disk space is 4-6x the amount of RAM you have.

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#3 2009-10-21 5:14 pm

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Re: Optomize a Mac?

System optimization: You can use Yasu (or other programs such as Cocktail and Onyx) to clear caches, run the daily, weekly and monthly scripts.

Disk Optimization:  I recommend Disk Warrior 4.   Disk Warrior optimizes your disk directory.   A competitor to DW4 is Tech Tool.   I've only used Tech Tool once on my disk and that was some time ago.

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#4 2009-10-21 5:17 pm

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Re: Optomize a Mac?

Nefarious wrote:

There are 2 groups of optimization:  system and disk.

First, a pair of questions of disk and ram.   1) check your "About This Mac" or System Profiler to make sure all of your RAM chips are working.   2) How much empty disk space is on the Mac Pro ?   My guideline is to always have at least 10 gb of empty disk space and also to make sure the empty disk space is 4-6x the amount of RAM you have.

8 GB Of RAM. System profiles says the ram is OK
The main OS HDD has 171 GB free

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#5 2009-10-21 9:12 pm

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Re: Optomize a Mac?

Basic clean up would also include shutting down any widgets that you may have running in the background. Also check to see what other processes are running in the background from installed programs. Utilities that you installed to check out and then forgot about are prime suspects and should be removed.


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#6 2009-10-28 6:36 pm

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Re: Optomize a Mac?

so i ran yasu seems to have helped a little, thanks. But the system is still a bit slugish. Anyone have a link for diskwarrior/tech tool?

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#7 2009-10-28 9:25 pm

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Re: Optomize a Mac?

Nekolix:

Did you buy the AppleCare plan for your tower? If yes, TechTool Deluxe is available to you free of charge, as a download, from Apple's website: https://support.apple.com/techtooldeluxe/main?id=dl

If not, Micromat and Alsoft make TechTool and DiskWarrior respectively. I've used them both, fairly comparable.

As a possible quick fix, just curious if you've attempted a reinstall of Snow Leopard. These tools may very well help you solve your problem now (and avoid problems in the future), but sometimes a reinstall may resolve certain conflicts. Just a thought.

Last edited by SomeOneOrOther (2009-10-28 9:26 pm)


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#8 2009-10-29 11:40 am

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Re: Optomize a Mac?

SomeOneOrOther wrote:

Nekolix:

Did you buy the AppleCare plan for your tower? If yes, TechTool Deluxe is available to you free of charge, as a download, from Apple's website: https://support.apple.com/techtooldeluxe/main?id=dl

If not, Micromat and Alsoft make TechTool and DiskWarrior respectively. I've used them both, fairly comparable.

As a possible quick fix, just curious if you've attempted a reinstall of Snow Leopard. These tools may very well help you solve your problem now (and avoid problems in the future), but sometimes a reinstall may resolve certain conflicts. Just a thought.

nope no apple care here.

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#9 2009-10-29 4:59 pm

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Re: Optomize a Mac?

SomeOneOrOther wrote:

Nekolix:

Did you buy the AppleCare plan for your tower? If yes, TechTool Deluxe is available to you free of charge, as a download, from Apple's website: https://support.apple.com/techtooldeluxe/main?id=dl

If not, Micromat and Alsoft make TechTool and DiskWarrior respectively. I've used them both, fairly comparable.

As a possible quick fix, just curious if you've attempted a reinstall of Snow Leopard. These tools may very well help you solve your problem now (and avoid problems in the future), but sometimes a reinstall may resolve certain conflicts. Just a thought.

Both these tools are excellent but each is a bit different than the other so if you really want to be anal about polishing your hard drive to a high gloss you should use both.

About hard drive space. OSX consumes a voracious amount of hard drive space managing memory and stuff. Right now, with very little running my VM files size is 38gig. You need lots more than 10gig free, more even than the old "10%" rule.
I try to keep 50 gig free on my boot drive.


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#10 2009-11-10 12:26 pm

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Re: Optomize a Mac?

Pariah wrote:

SomeOneOrOther wrote:

Nekolix:

Did you buy the AppleCare plan for your tower? If yes, TechTool Deluxe is available to you free of charge, as a download, from Apple's website: https://support.apple.com/techtooldeluxe/main?id=dl

If not, Micromat and Alsoft make TechTool and DiskWarrior respectively. I've used them both, fairly comparable.

As a possible quick fix, just curious if you've attempted a reinstall of Snow Leopard. These tools may very well help you solve your problem now (and avoid problems in the future), but sometimes a reinstall may resolve certain conflicts. Just a thought.

Both these tools are excellent but each is a bit different than the other so if you really want to be anal about polishing your hard drive to a high gloss you should use both.

About hard drive space. OSX consumes a voracious amount of hard drive space managing memory and stuff. Right now, with very little running my VM files size is 38gig. You need lots more than 10gig free, more even than the old "10%" rule.
I try to keep 50 gig free on my boot drive.

my os drive has 169gb free (and some change)
been looking for a free solution liek disc warrior but no luck, i have a hard enough time convincing the big wigs we need a additional hard drove for the work files with only 14gb left so doubt they would spring for sys optimization
I'm running Leopard, not snow, mainly cause most of snows improves ments are based on a GPU we don't have. (Steve j\Jobs abandoned all us 2008 mac towers! and our ATI Radeon HD 2600s!)

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#11 2009-11-10 12:54 pm

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Re: Optomize a Mac?

Nekollx wrote:

I'm running Leopard, not snow, mainly cause most of snows improves ments are based on a GPU we don't have. (Steve j\Jobs abandoned all us 2008 mac towers! and our ATI Radeon HD 2600s!)

confused

snow leopard is a lot more than just openCL


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#12 2009-11-10 1:37 pm

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Re: Optomize a Mac?

Pariah wrote:

About hard drive space. OSX consumes a voracious amount of hard drive space managing memory and stuff. Right now, with very little running my VM files size is 38gig. You need lots more than 10gig free, more even than the old "10%" rule.

How much Ram do you have?

Code:

Typhon:~ jeremy$ ls -lk /private/var/vm
total 65536
-rw-------  1 root  wheel  67108864 Nov 10 06:56 swapfile0
Typhon:~ jeremy$

That's a 67.1 Megabyte swap file.

Megabytes, not gigabytes.


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