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I don't see that generically referring to a group as jackasses is quite the same as wishing death and torture on someone specifically by name. If you feel that I was referring to you specifically as a jackass then just consider it as sarcasm.
By the way, it was Bren that first used the term jackass in this post , generically referring to conservatives.

Last edited by Daddyo (2009-11-04 12:31 pm)

iSeamas wrote:

Daddyo, seriously. Glenn Beck advocates torture and killing, why is it wrong for anyone to call for his table to be turned?

Can't say that I know much about Glenn Beck, can you please point me to a link where he advocates killing and torturing innocent people.

" ... until proven guilty" ?

iSeamas wrote:

DukeofNuke wrote:

" ... until proven guilty" ?

And isn't that Beck's rationalization of torture?
You need to torture people so they confess. Once they confess they aren't innocent anymore.

Well, if that's his rationalization, then it's as backward as anything else he's ever said.

What bothers me is not that Beck is insane, yet believes he isn't; but that there are multitudes of people out there who actually believe that he is sane and correct, and that his meandering conspiracy theories are true.

I mean, it's obvious that ACORN is going to rule the New World Order, right?

Probably because I never said ANYTHING about "innocent", genius.
You tossed the modifier in there, right?

Daddyo wrote:

I don't see that generically referring to a group as jackasses is quite the same as wishing death and torture on someone specifically by name. If you feel that I was referring to you specifically as a jackass then just consider it as sarcasm.
By the way, it was Bren that first used the term jackass in this post , generically referring to conservatives.

I was just generalizing my view. The guy needs help.

I have a good friend from college who, like all of us, works for a living and sees the senseless spectacle the American political process has become.

Unfortunately, he's bought into the argument that the government is the problem, taxation is the problem, and that we need to do away with government. He'll always be my friend and I and others who know him hope that he'll think it through for himself and see how this propaganda works.

I try to tell him that the special interests are bribing the elected officials, and that the corporate owned media that those officials have been bribed to deregulate then turn around and make the claim (through their propaganda theatre) that the same government it routinely bribes and benefits from is necessarily bad because it uses your tax money to involve itself in public spectacles of stupidity like issues involving steroid use in sports. . . side issues which consume a huge minority of time and effort, which seem to get a lot of coverage by that same corporate owned media. This gets extended by the contortionist antics of media demagogues (like Beck) into this mass conspiracy thing about government wanting to control our lives.

So, yes, the government involves itself in stupidity that may be a waste of time and money. . . but the larger implication that doesn't logically follow from that is that government is necessarily bad and wants to control your life. . . as opposed to the corporate desire to use the legal system to enable them to extract whatever value they can from you without impediment by any government mechanism instituted on behalf of 'the people'? Slavery in our recent history is perhaps the most egregious example of that, no? It was legal, remember, and then there are all the people who make the claim that secession was based on property rights, not the moral travesty of slavery. . .

And the funny thing is that this line of 'evil government' argument always seems to come from the self proclaimed "conservative" zealots who all seemed pretty gung ho to use the government to waste lives and money in recent foreign wars. . . and I'm pretty sure that's in the trillions now. . .

and that's what Glenn Beck is. . . a highly paid salesman and a liar whose job is to play on people's anger and frustration. . . to effectively lie to them and get them to vote against their own best interest, to cede control of our country to the corporatocracy without that stupid, nasty, messy government getting in the way.

I think he's evil and deserves to be called to account for his decisions to willfully and repeatedly lie to us, misrepresent facts, and call for violence agaiinst elected officials in the interests of the corporatocracy.

I know that people like resedit will feign incredulity that I'd feel this way but I'll admit that I'd like to know that Glenn Beck will die a horrible. humiliating public death, along with hannity, limbaugh, boortz, oreilly, coulter and all those other fascist lunatics who are being highly paid to stir the pot no matter how many people are harmed by it. These people are partially responsible for political outcomes that have caused a lot of pain, death, and worked to the detriment of the American political process. As such they are likely treasonous. Unfortunately, to kill him would only make him a martyr. . . and the propagandists who pay these people would roll in that like pigs in acorns.

All I wanna know is did Glenn Beck not kill and rape a young girl in 1990. I still need him to provide evidence that he has not done this.

Daddyo wrote:

Bren wrote:

I am deeply concerned about the shockingly large number of right-wing jackasses in our culture who are openly calling for the death of our president. It's totally out of hand, and it worries me tremendously. The Onion's video does not help the situation.

One cannot combat the advocacy of murder by advocating murder.

Yes, the guilty parties right now are overwhelmingly on the right, but none of us will profit if folks on the left get down into the gutter with them.


Americans need to stop talking about killing each other.

If you could give links to some of these "large numbers" you would be more believable.

WTF? I need to provide links to something that is as plain as day? Secondly, not everything occurs on the Internet. I've heard numerous callers to various radio programs describing their experiences with people calling for the president's death. I believe they were telling the truth. Thirdly, what do you mean, I would be more believable? If you're asserting that I've made an untrue statement, you must really have your head stuck in the sand.

There are always some idiots calling for smurf like this on both sides.

That a few punk-rock teenagers in the 1980s may have called for Ronald Reagan's death does not make the situations equivalent. The people calling for Obama's death are sympathetic to, or are members of, various "militia," "posse comitatus" and white-supremacist organizations. Unlike the vast majority of lefties, these folks are heavily armed, and have the means, motive and lack of scruples necessary to act on their murderous rhetoric.

What makes me want to puke is the crap from jackasses like those of you here on this board, you talk about wanting  to kill and torture conservatives in the same sentence that you condemn such activity.
You prove once again by your vitriol, your hatred of anyone who has a different view than you, your anger at those with opposing views and your lack of any kind of moral standard that you are exactly what it is that you say you hate.
Keep up the good work.

When have I ever said or done any of these things?

Anonymous Delivers! wrote:

All I wanna know is did Glenn Beck not kill and rape a young girl in 1990. I still need him to provide evidence that he has not done this.

What!?

Bren wrote:

Anonymous Delivers! wrote:

All I wanna know is did Glenn Beck not kill and rape a young girl in 1990. I still need him to provide evidence that he has not done this.

What!?

This site exists to try and help examine the vicious rumour that Glenn Beck raped and murdered a young girl in 1990. We don't claim to know the truth -- only that the rumour floating around saying that Glenn Beck raped and murdered a young girl in 1990 should be discussed. So we're going to do our part to try and help get to the bottom of this.
Why won't Glenn Beck deny these allegations? We're not accusing Glenn Beck of raping and murdering a young girl in 1990 - in fact, we think he didn't! But we can't help but wonder, since he has failed to deny these horrible allegations. Why won't he deny that he raped and killed a young girl in 1990?

http://glennbeckrapedandmurderedayounggirlin1990.com/

He finally applied enough legal pressure for them to put "parody" at the top of the page, but I feel that just makes it all the more credible.

Here it is