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You people are unbelievable:

"Apparently, he's still alive...Well, that's a shame."

"it's just a shot at one useless sack of crap"

"Much better to nail him by the scrotum to a piano and then set the house on fire"

"right after we waterboard Sean Hannity."

"my bet is he is using again or about to"

"I think he's evil"

"I'll admit that I'd like to know that Glenn Beck will die a horrible. humiliating public death, along with hannity, limbaugh, boortz, oreilly, coulter and all those other fascist lunatics "



If you could only hear yourselves.

vitriol |ˈvitrēəl; -ˌôl|
noun archaic or poetic/literary
sulfuric acid.
• figurative cruel and bitter criticism

Bren wrote:

I am deeply concerned about the shockingly large number of right-wing jackasses in our culture who are openly calling for the death of our president. It's totally out of hand, and it worries me tremendously... the guilty parties right now are overwhelmingly on the right

I assume you have an verified stat that backs up that statement. Or are you just making up "facts" to justify your opinion?

Daniel wrote:

It would be much better to factually note the striking similarities between Beck's rhetoric to that of Hitler in 1930's Germany

Please do. I'd like to see that.

iSeamas wrote:

And isn't that Beck's rationalization of torture?
You need to torture people so they confess. Once they confess they aren't innocent anymore.

I don't know is it? Please provide the quote or some sort of proof that Beck believes this. Otherwise, you too are just making stuff up.

DukeofNuke wrote:

Well, if that's his rationalization, then it's as backward as anything else he's ever said.

Please point out where he said that.

islay wrote:

I think he's evil and deserves to be called to account for his decisions to willfully and repeatedly lie to us, misrepresent facts, and call for violence agaiinst elected officials in the interests of the corporatocracy.

Please provide a quote or a link or some sort of proof that Glenn has "called for violence against elected officials"

sturner wrote:

I find the irony almost too much to bear. The Republicans maintain that government is bad, that big government is badder, and that taxes are baddest of all. They maintain that government is incompetent.

I'm a little confused. You are saying this in a thread about Glenn Beck. You do realize that he is not a Republican don't you? Perhaps you are referring to conservatives. But even then you would be wrong. Conservatives, including Beck, are not saying government is bad. We are saying corrupt government is bad. Big government is corrupt government. Of course government is necessary. The smaller the government the less corrupt it is. We are for smaller government, not no government.

sturner wrote:

The Republicans also are guilty of enlarging the government at alarming rates, and have been doing so right along with the Democrats, yet their enlargements seem to be building a larger and larger authoritarian infrastructure.The Republicans haven't really addressed spending, except to increase spending.

That's exactly right. That's why you've recently seen more and more conservatives turning against the Republican party.

Bren wrote:

What makes me want to puke is the crap from jackasses like those of you here on this board, you talk about wanting  to kill and torture conservatives in the same sentence that you condemn such activity.
You prove once again by your vitriol, your hatred of anyone who has a different view than you, your anger at those with opposing views and your lack of any kind of moral standard that you are exactly what it is that you say you hate.
Keep up the good work.

When have I ever said or done any of these things?

"WTF? I need to provide links to something that is as plain as day?"


You people are so full of hatred for someone that you are allowing yourselves to loose your grip on rational thinking. You are willing to assume the worst and make accusations without proof. Apparently tolerance only goes one way.

tolerance |ˈtäl(ə)rəns|
noun
1 the ability or willingness to tolerate something, in particular the existence of opinions or behavior that one does not necessarily agree with

Bren wrote:

Regarding Al Gore: I thought they'd disconnected his life-support years ago.

One of the only cool things about the prospect of his candidacy in the presidential elections years ago was that it would have been the first cyborg in office.

Bren wrote:

So you're accusing me of being a liar?

Well, if the boot fits.

And you are the one who keeps trying on the boot. Why don't you take a step back and look at yourself. Just take a good objective look at your last post. You are claiming that your opinion is right and you don't need proof. What kind of rational thinking is that. So you what, just have "blind faith" that you are right. Your hatred for a certain man is causing you to loose your rational thinking about him. Seriously look at your own words.

You said there was a "large number of right-wing jackasses in our culture who are openly calling for the death of our president" Then as "proof" you provide four links about the same one guy.

If I were making the same claims about you and your friends and offering the same kind of "proof" you are, wouldn't you call me an intolerant, irrational liar?

StaticAge wrote:

Bren wrote:

the trend will become blindingly obvious

Except to the already blind.

So you agree with Bren that one person makes a trend.

Keep trying on that boot.

Last edited by pastor macman (2009-11-06 9:01 am)

StaticAge wrote:

You even contradicted yourself in your responses to various persons- for instance pointing out criticism of conservatives shouldnt apply to Beck since he isnt Republican

No, go back and read it carefully. I was saying that criticism of Republicans shouldn't apply to Beck since he isn't a Republican. That is a rational argument.

For a truly hilarious video about Beck, Jon Stewart maintains a spot-on parody for 6 minutes straight.

Take the rhetoric down several notches.

That is for both Daddyo and iSeamas.

What'd I do?

Ohhhh yeah, I knew someone would try to call me out on this.

Macman:

I stand by my statements. I admit they're vitriolic. If you read the whole thing, though, you'll find that I write that I understand that violence against them would make them martyrs. What they DESERVE is not what they'll get because they know they're protected. I'm betting most of them have hired private security people. . . because they need the big kid to hide behind while they go about stirring up trouble.

People like Beck, Limbaugh, Boortz, Coulter, Hannity et al. KNOW FULL WELL that they spew toxic, harmful, non constructive ideas which are designed to resonate with frustrated working class demographic that they can convince to act against their own interests by making them afraid of the big bad evil government. It's a delusional line of crap.

They do this in the context of talk about rights to bear arms. They have called for violence against Obama.

Yeah, the corporate overlords would just LOVE it if the po' white militia trash would rise up and descend on washington with torches, pitchforks, guns and stuff and force Obama to show 'em his birth certificate. . .

They're being very well paid to spout this line of crap by the corporate folks who own the media and who want to repeal workplace and product safety guidelines, who don't want you to be able to join a union, who want to keep extracting lots of value for health insurance and care. . . because, and they may as well come out and say it, it's not okay for government to do this because it's oppression but it's certainly okay for the government to allow the private sector to do so. . . because that's the free market.

They almost all fall under the umbrella of self proclaimed "conservative".

People like you make me laugh with your mock incredulity.

pastor macman wrote:

Bren wrote:

So you're accusing me of being a liar?

Well, if the boot fits.

And you are the one who keeps trying on the boot. Why don't you take a step back and look at yourself. Just take a good objective look at your last post. You are claiming that your opinion is right and you don't need proof. What kind of rational thinking is that. So you what, just have "blind faith" that you are right. Your hatred for a certain man is causing you to loose your rational thinking about him. Seriously look at your own words.

You said there was a "large number of right-wing jackasses in our culture who are openly calling for the death of our president" Then as "proof" you provide four links about the same one guy.

If I were making the same claims about you and your friends and offering the same kind of "proof" you are, wouldn't you call me an intolerant, irrational liar?

StaticAge wrote:

Bren wrote:

the trend will become blindingly obvious

Except to the already blind.

So you agree with Bren that one person makes a trend.

Keep trying on that boot.

The sale of guns and ammo soared after Obama was elected.
According to the secret service threats on the presidency increased 400% after Obama was elected.

That's good enough for me.

resedit wrote:

iSeamas wrote:

DukeofNuke wrote:

" ... until proven guilty" ?

And isn't that Beck's rationalization of torture?
You need to torture people so they confess. Once they confess they aren't innocent anymore.

If you need to so blatantly mis-represent his position to make your point, you lose.

How is that misrepresentation?

Jeez. What other rationale does he have? Torture as punishment?

We do?

It's still a stupid idea. The real professional interrogators, the ones who actually have gotten results, will tell you that other methods work a lot better than torture.