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#26 2009-11-06 4:57 pm
Re: Texas Army Base Shooting...by a shrink
I think it's another case of dis-gruntled depressed employee shooting up place of employ.
Given current economy with record unemployment, I fear we are going to see more of this type of thing.
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#27 2009-11-06 5:07 pm
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Re: Texas Army Base Shooting...by a shrink
resedit wrote:
I think it's another case of dis-gruntled depressed employee shooting up place of employ.
Given current economy with record unemployment, I fear we are going to see more of this type of thing.
Just wait till the Dems health care bill passes tomorrow.
"and it's not surprising that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."
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#28 2009-11-06 5:08 pm
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Re: Texas Army Base Shooting...by a shrink
resedit wrote:
I think it's another case of dis-gruntled depressed employee shooting up place of employ.
Given current economy with record unemployment, I fear we are going to see more of this type of thing.
Actually, it seems more like he was upset that he couldn't be unemployed as soon as he'd like.
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#30 2009-11-06 6:20 pm
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Re: Texas Army Base Shooting...by a shrink
resedit wrote:
which makes him a disgruntled employee ...
You just have to put him in a slot, don't you.
"and it's not surprising that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."
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#31 2009-11-06 6:24 pm
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Re: Texas Army Base Shooting...by a shrink
resedit wrote:
which makes him a disgruntled employee ...
...having nothing to do with the economy or unemployment
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#32 2009-11-06 9:10 pm
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Re: Texas Army Base Shooting...by a shrink
Hold on boy, save that for the enemy!
Aw, he's no fun, he fell right over.
Unless you become as little children, there's no way you will believe this crap.
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#33 2009-11-07 12:24 pm
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Re: Texas Army Base Shooting...by a shrink
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Hold on boy, save that for the enemy!
We have met the enemy, and he is us.
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#34 2009-11-07 1:02 pm
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Re: Texas Army Base Shooting...by a shrink
He had two options, refuse to serve, and accept court-martial, or execute his orders.
He chose an option not sanctioned by any civilized society.
I'm not dead yet.
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#35 2009-11-10 4:01 am
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Re: Texas Army Base Shooting...by a shrink
If he really didn't want to witness the potential horrors of a deployment overseas, the best thing to do would be... bring it to us here?
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#36 2009-11-10 9:08 am
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We don't know why he did it, regardless of what talking heads may theorize about religious motivation, stress, mental disorder, etc.
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#37 2009-11-10 9:37 am
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Re: Texas Army Base Shooting...by a shrink
Senator Lieberman is sure milking this for all it's worth.
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#38 2009-11-10 9:54 am
Re: Texas Army Base Shooting...by a shrink
Tallgeese wrote:
resedit wrote:
which makes him a disgruntled employee ...
...having nothing to do with the economy or unemployment
Let me explain something to you.
When economy is bad and unemployment is high, there is general gloom and sense of depression amongst the general population.
You can even see it here at minithink where the jerk to content ratio has gone up.
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#39 2009-11-10 11:31 am
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Re: Texas Army Base Shooting...by a shrink
Maybe too much shouldn't be made of the Major's foreigness. A shooting spree seems more like a way to fit in. There was another shooting spree on or around the same day in another part of the country.
when surrounded and left on Afghanistan's plains,
and the women come out to cut up what remains,
just roll to your rifle and blow out your brains,
and go to your god like a soldier...
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#40 2009-11-11 7:48 am
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Re: Texas Army Base Shooting...by a shrink
On the subject of dangerous muslims etc, perhaps foreigners with beards and accents might be included; they seem muslim-ish at any rate.
http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafe … or/1050707
On the bright side, the marine reservist meant well*.
* I'm expecting some responses along those lines 'out there'.
when surrounded and left on Afghanistan's plains,
and the women come out to cut up what remains,
just roll to your rifle and blow out your brains,
and go to your god like a soldier...
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#41 2009-11-11 7:52 am
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Re: Texas Army Base Shooting...by a shrink
Not THE Jansen Bruce?!
http://madabouttheboys.blogspot.com/200 … bruce.html
when surrounded and left on Afghanistan's plains,
and the women come out to cut up what remains,
just roll to your rifle and blow out your brains,
and go to your god like a soldier...
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#42 2009-11-11 5:29 pm
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Re: Texas Army Base Shooting...by a shrink
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne … -club.html
Seems to indicate more towards Muslim extremism, but I still hope it was "just" a madman snapping.
Whether or not he was an extremist, this smurf will probably make life even harder for Muslim soldiers in the U.S military.
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#44 2009-11-11 7:37 pm
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Re: Texas Army Base Shooting...by a shrink
Some1 wrote:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6546905/Fort-Hood-killer-Nidal-Malik-Hasan-visited-lapdancing-club.html
Seems to indicate more towards Muslim extremism, but I still hope it was "just" a madman snapping.
Whether or not he was an extremist, this smurf will probably make life even harder for Muslim soldiers in the U.S military.
In today's paper there was a letter saying that Hasan wasn't a soldier but a Muslim pretending to be a soldier.
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#45 2009-11-11 7:49 pm
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Re: Texas Army Base Shooting...by a shrink
Ribtorus wrote:
On the subject of dangerous muslims etc, perhaps foreigners with beards and accents might be included; they seem muslim-ish at any rate.
http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafe … or/1050707
On the bright side, the marine reservist meant well*.
* I'm expecting some responses along those lines 'out there'.
The few, the proud, the roided up thugs.
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#46 2009-11-12 1:05 pm
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Re: Texas Army Base Shooting...by a shrink
Tallgeese wrote:
Some1 wrote:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6546905/Fort-Hood-killer-Nidal-Malik-Hasan-visited-lapdancing-club.html
Seems to indicate more towards Muslim extremism, but I still hope it was "just" a madman snapping.
Whether or not he was an extremist, this smurf will probably make life even harder for Muslim soldiers in the U.S military.In today's paper there was a letter saying that Hasan wasn't a soldier but a Muslim pretending to be a soldier.
At the Muslim Community Centre in the Washington suburb of Silver Spring he signed up for an Islamic matchmaking service, specifying that he wanted a bride who wore the hijab and prayed five times a day.
That has a bit more credibility than some crackpot letter to the editor.
He did go postal, just in a jihadish sort of way?
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#47 2009-11-12 1:51 pm
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The point is that the statement "he was not a soldier, but a Muslim" indicates that the two are mutually exclusive.
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#48 2009-11-12 2:02 pm
Re: Texas Army Base Shooting...by a shrink
Tallgeese wrote:
The point is that the statement "he was not a soldier, but a Muslim" indicates that the two are mutually exclusive.
Letter to a paper is expression of opinion of one individual.
There probably are others with that POV - but it's not anything to get twisted over, papers like to printers letters showing uncommon perspectives.
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#49 2009-11-12 2:15 pm
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He's been officially charged with 13 counts of premeditated murder. How does the military carry out executions these days?
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#50 2009-11-12 2:36 pm
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Re: Texas Army Base Shooting...by a shrink
Hopefully firing squad.
Guillotine would be good too.
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