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elementforlife · 2003-03-23 2:40 pm

We have a big problem. And i JUST realized it. Saddam really doesn't give a flying smurf about his people. This guy is gonna smurf some smurf up before he dies. I know if i was him (and evil and all) i'd take out as many people as i could with me. We've got a smurfing problem. We'll see what happens when the troops get to baghdad. pray for them. they're only 100 miles from baghdad, im sure that he's got some plan if they've gotten this far without any outstanding problem. because thats a long way to go without a problem, and there isn't a person in a war without a plan.

shoeman · 2003-03-23 4:11 pm

Maybe Saddam will unleash suicide bombers? I think I read that some where or maybe I heard it on the news.

dreamkast0r · 2003-03-23 5:13 pm

Dude, something awful IS happening! It's called war! The moment Bush refused to try any other options and resorted to this war, he accepted the fact that Saddam may do some crazy smurf. Seriously though, what does he have to lose? It's a bunch of people trying to smurfing kill each other, what good can come of it?

Tria · 2003-03-23 6:37 pm

Yah... I saw somebody earlier say "Omg! Sadaam is torturing American soldiers!"

This is war... What did you expect to happen? A tea party?

adndgamer · 2003-03-23 6:52 pm

Yah... I saw somebody earlier say "Omg! Sadaam is torturing American soldiers!"

This is war... What did you expect to happen? A tea party?

lol the mental imagery... oh the mental imagery...

joethebarber · 2003-03-23 9:38 pm

Here's one... A friend of mine said these people that she was babysitting for said "Can't you sleep better at night knowing Georgie's off fighting the dragon?" Scary, eh?

Freezer mac · 2003-03-23 9:56 pm

We have a big problem. And i JUST realized it. Saddam really doesn't give a flying smurf about his people. This guy is gonna smurf some smurf up before he dies. I know if i was him (and evil and all) i'd take out as many people as i could with me. We've got a smurfing problem. We'll see what happens when the troops get to baghdad. pray for them. they're only 100 miles from baghdad, im sure that he's got some plan if they've gotten this far without any outstanding problem. because thats a long way to go without a problem, and there isn't a person in a war without a plan.

you just realized it...

saddam was not a threat to us until we attacked him...once we have him backed into a corner, it will become very dangerous for anyone american in iraq...

and yet we tried to tell you this before the war, but you just beat your drums and ignored us. perhaps next time you will listen more carefully.

benwards · 2003-03-23 10:09 pm

nationalist: (n) one who can shout very loudly without knowing what he/she is shouting about

wink

SamGuy · 2003-03-23 10:57 pm

yeah, i was giving thought to that same horrible scenario a while back... when everyone is in bagdad.... boom saddam has the bomb

it would be the best strategy for him... to wait.

LKS_Rocky · 2003-03-23 11:07 pm

war bad. I can't keep track of all the guys been killed now. Have u guys been watching CNN? they have live combat footage. its kinda scary but still impresive. IF I was Saddam i would be making sure everything died before i went out. Whats really sad is the british plane that got hit by a Patriot missle

shoeman · 2003-03-23 11:31 pm

war bad. I can't keep track of all the guys been killed now. Have u guys been watching CNN? they have live combat footage. its kinda scary but still impresive. IF I was Saddam i would be making sure everything died before i went out. Whats really sad is the british plane that got hit by a Patriot missle

It's sad that we have reduced ourselves to watching war for entertainment.

adndgamer · 2003-03-23 11:35 pm

war bad. I can't keep track of all the guys been killed now. Have u guys been watching CNN? they have live combat footage. its kinda scary but still impresive. IF I was Saddam i would be making sure everything died before i went out. Whats really sad is the british plane that got hit by a Patriot missle
It's sad that we have reduced ourselves to watching war for entertainment.

Conspiracy theory -- maybe... the big networks have bought out bush and made the war happen as some kind of reality tv show.

or not. nevermind me. i'm full of smurf.

shoeman · 2003-03-23 11:40 pm

war bad. I can't keep track of all the guys been killed now. Have u guys been watching CNN? they have live combat footage. its kinda scary but still impresive. IF I was Saddam i would be making sure everything died before i went out. Whats really sad is the british plane that got hit by a Patriot missle
It's sad that we have reduced ourselves to watching war for entertainment.
Conspiracy theory -- maybe... the big networks have bought out bush and made the war happen as some kind of reality tv show.

or not. nevermind me. i'm full of poop.

yea, I too thought of it as a reality tv show. Humans are pathetic.

benwards · 2003-03-23 11:48 pm

how about a reality tv show where thousands of average people from all over the country compete to be elected president on the basis of physical attractiveness, charm, money, and ability to be manipulated by the media?

they could call it American Idol: 2004 tongue

adndgamer · 2003-03-23 11:52 pm

war bad. I can't keep track of all the guys been killed now. Have u guys been watching CNN? they have live combat footage. its kinda scary but still impresive. IF I was Saddam i would be making sure everything died before i went out. Whats really sad is the british plane that got hit by a Patriot missle
It's sad that we have reduced ourselves to watching war for entertainment.
Conspiracy theory -- maybe... the big networks have bought out bush and made the war happen as some kind of reality tv show.

or not. nevermind me. i'm full of poop.
yea, I too thought of it as a reality tv show. Humans are pathetic.

Yes. I give the human race 50 years before we extinguish ourselves.

Ellipsoid · 2003-03-24 12:05 am

and yet we tried to tell you this before the war, but you just beat your drums and ignored us. perhaps next time you will listen more carefully.

I would make a wild conjecture and say you were French, except you talk about "we" the U.S.

Honestly, after the Oscars tonight (can we hear that round of "boo" for Mr. Michael Moore one more time?) I'm about up to here with implications that everything the president has done with regards to this issue is irrational, baseless, and without consideration for all the repercussions.

It's just not true.

How many times can a series of voices say, "or else!" without backing it up? The U.S. has not been the only voice to declare this, contrary to many misinformed opinions. If we will recall, it was the same United Nations council that recently faltered that has said, "or else!" eight times now!

President Bush is President because he has some significant capability in the position. If 49% of the U.S. thought this when he was elected, so be it; it is folly to assume that 49% of multi-hundred-million people all decided to vote for this guy simply because he "looks trustworthy." Furthermore, even if Bush himself is less than capable for the task at hand, he has a slew of men surrounding him at every waking hour who are knowledgeable, experienced, and qualified. The most vehement autocrat cannot rule with an iron fist if he is surrounded by large and important men urging an informed position.

So this I direct to your fifth-grader, "told ya so!" attitude.

LKS_Rocky · 2003-03-24 12:36 am

I never said it was entertainment. If anything i meant that it was good to show people war isn't constant blasting and that soilders were lieing face down for hours waiting. My point was that it was amazing that technogly alows us to see all of that.

Alien · 2003-03-24 11:51 am

I'm about up to here with implications that everything the president has done with regards to this issue is irrational, baseless, and without consideration for all the repercussions.

It's just not true.

Actually, it is. They go off to war, thinking, "we'll be home by christmas, this'll be a walk in the park." Now, Turkey's getting involved, fighting off the Kurds, who are supposed to be on the US' side. The Kurds are fighting amongst themselves, too, and this is likely to get worse before it gets any better.

A few cruise missiles, "accidently" dropped on Iran, on oil installations no less, while at the same time bombing shiite muslims in Iraq, one of the largest groups opposing Saddam's reign, and close allies with Iran. Might well spark off Iran enough to make them join the festivities.

Then all hell will break loose in the middle east, quite the contrary of what Bush and his pals had in mind.

All Saddam has to do to make it really fun, is drop a missile or two on Israel, and the Israeli army will strike back with all they have. It's just the excuse they've been waiting for, with that madman Sharon at the helm.

It's more than just short-sighted and overconfident to think they can just go in and pull it off. It's stoopid and dangerous to the middle east and the world at large. Why do you think Saddam was allowed to stay in power for so long?

[..] even if Bush himself is less than capable for the task at hand, he has a slew of men surrounding him at every waking hour who are knowledgeable, experienced, and qualified.

But not elected. Who'se actually in charge in the US? Bush? I don't think so. Who elected Donald Rumsfeld to be the boss?

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SteelWolf · 2003-03-24 12:24 pm

Yah... I saw somebody earlier say "Omg! Sadaam is torturing American soldiers!"

This is war... What did you expect to happen? A tea party?

No, we don't expect it to be a tea party. This is a war. What pisses us off about the torture is that it violates the Geneva convention, violates human life and is just WRONG.

We have a big problem. And i JUST realized it. Saddam really doesn't give a flying smurf about his people. This guy is gonna smurf some smurf up before he dies. I know if i was him (and evil and all) i'd take out as many people as i could with me. We've got a smurfing problem. We'll see what happens when the troops get to baghdad. pray for them. they're only 100 miles from baghdad, im sure that he's got some plan if they've gotten this far without any outstanding problem. because thats a long way to go without a problem, and there isn't a person in a war without a plan.
you just realized it...

saddam was not a threat to us until we attacked him...once we have him backed into a corner, it will become very dangerous for anyone american in iraq...

and yet we tried to tell you this before the war, but you just beat your drums and ignored us. perhaps next time you will listen more carefully.

I hate to tell you, but Saddam has ALWAYS been a threat to us. HE NEEDS TO GO. He has enough chemical and biological weapons stockpiled to kill THOUSANDS, if not MILLIONS. If the American Public was not so shielded from reality by the media, they would realize the validity of the threat. In fact, Coalition forces discovered a Chemical Weapons facility today (or yesterday?) just south of Baghdad.

[..] even if Bush himself is less than capable for the task at hand, he has a slew of men surrounding him at every waking hour who are knowledgeable, experienced, and qualified.
But not elected. Who'se actually in charge in the US? Bush? I don't think so. Who elected Donald Rumsfeld to be the boss?

,xtG
.tsooJ

OH YEA? Well, constitutionally, you are right. Our nation cannot declare war if Congress doesn't support it. However, they signed some act that gave Bush the power to declare war. And besides that, what about all of the other presidents who declared war unconstitutionally?

Piltdownman84 · 2003-03-24 2:04 pm

Yah... I saw somebody earlier say "Omg! Sadaam is torturing American soldiers!"

This is war... What did you expect to happen? A tea party?
No, we don't expect it to be a tea party. This is a war. What pisses us off about the torture is that it violates the Geneva convention, violates human life and is just WRONG.

I must remind everyone that the part of the Geneva convention being violated is the fact that the prisoners are not being "protected by insults and public curiosity" because they are being questioned on television. There is no proof and really any reason to believe that torture is being used. It is also interesting to note that ICRC isn't just pointing their finger at iraq for their use of prisoners for proganda, but america too. CNN has seemed to ignore this fact, but many other news agencies including BBC has mentioned this.

Also I think it is very hypocritical for the american government to be wining about human rights violations of prisoners after how they treated prisoners from the Afghanistanm conquest. Im not saying that any violations to the Geneva convention are expectable, simply that America is just as bad if not worse.

Piltdownman84 · 2003-03-24 2:26 pm

We have a big problem. And i JUST realized it. Saddam really doesn't give a flying smurf about his people. This guy is gonna smurf some smurf up before he dies. I know if i was him (and evil and all) i'd take out as many people as i could with me. We've got a smurfing problem. We'll see what happens when the troops get to baghdad. pray for them. they're only 100 miles from baghdad, im sure that he's got some plan if they've gotten this far without any outstanding problem. because thats a long way to go without a problem, and there isn't a person in a war without a plan.
you just realized it...

saddam was not a threat to us until we attacked him...once we have him backed into a corner, it will become very dangerous for anyone american in iraq...

and yet we tried to tell you this before the war, but you just beat your drums and ignored us. perhaps next time you will listen more carefully.
I hate to tell you, but Saddam has ALWAYS been a threat to us. HE NEEDS TO GO. He has enough chemical and biological weapons stockpiled to kill THOUSANDS, if not MILLIONS. If the American Public was not so shielded from reality by the media, they would realize the validity of the threat. In fact, Coalition forces discovered a Chemical Weapons facility today (or yesterday?) just south of Baghdad.

Woh, woh, hold on here, your adding 'weapons' to that Chemical Facility that was found.

US military say they are investigating "sites of potential interest" following reports of US troops reaching a chemical plant south of Baghdad.

They do make chemicals that aren't weapons you know. Not that Coalition forces shouldn't check them, but a chmical plant does in no way imply chemical weapons are being made.

Plus where is this idea that Saddam doesn't care about his people? Sure he doesn't seem to care much for the poor in iraq. But he cares about the rich people and middle class who live there. Not that much different the countries that we are posting from. Ok maybe thats not completely fair, but he isn't this pure evil creation that the US government makes him out to be.

As for that 100 km(im pretty sure its km not miles as stated here) from Bagdad it really confuses me, as the Coalition forces seem to be fightiing mostly in Nasiriya from what I can gather from various news articles, but as you can see thats alot farther than 100 km from Bagdad So while some of the US forces might be 100 km from Bagdad the bulk of their forces seem to be about 600 km away. So im guessing it will be quite soem time before we see things the "beaucoup bad smurf'

Her is a map

Edward · 2003-03-24 5:54 pm

Hrmmm.. I still think that this easy march is supicious. i fear that he will let it all go when they reach Bagdad. I think they will get to Saddam, catch him, and on the way out his commanders will let go either chemical of nuclear weapons. Just my fear.

benwards · 2003-03-24 6:00 pm

i think that at this point, any soldier who does end up going in after saddam himself is probably going to be equipped with the best protective gear the military has, and saddam most likely knows this. it would be a huge publicity thing if the US military got caught with their pants down at that point, but i kinda doubt that (1) saddam has that kind of weaponry in the first place, and (2) that he would choose to use it. it represents a huge risk to himself, and hes probably too selfish to commit suicide just to kill a few hundred US troops. also, things would go much worse for him if he survived such an attack on his (future) captors.

we shouldnt even be going in after him in the first place, seeing as how we are breaking international law in doing it, but at this point, it doenst matter anymore. the guy is an "evil" man, and he has to go, but this really isnt the right way to go about getting him out of power.

Ellipsoid · 2003-03-24 6:56 pm

I'm about up to here with implications that everything the president has done with regards to this issue is irrational, baseless, and without consideration for all the repercussions.

It's just not true.
Actually, it is. They go off to war, thinking, "we'll be home by christmas, this'll be a walk in the park." Now, Turkey's getting involved, fighting off the Kurds, who are supposed to be on the US' side. The Kurds are fighting amongst themselves, too, and this is likely to get worse before it gets any better.

A few cruise missiles, "accidently" dropped on Iran, on oil installations no less, while at the same time bombing shiite muslims in Iraq, one of the largest groups opposing Saddam's reign, and close allies with Iran. Might well spark off Iran enough to make them join the festivities.

Then all hell will break loose in the middle east, quite the contrary of what Bush and his pals had in mind.

All Saddam has to do to make it really fun, is drop a missile or two on Israel, and the Israeli army will strike back with all they have. It's just the excuse they've been waiting for, with that madman Sharon at the helm.

It's more than just short-sighted and overconfident to think they can just go in and pull it off. It's stoopid and dangerous to the middle east and the world at large. Why do you think Saddam was allowed to stay in power for so long?

even if Bush himself is less than capable for the task at hand, he has a slew of men surrounding him at every waking hour who are knowledgeable, experienced, and qualified.
But not elected. Who'se actually in charge in the US? Bush? I don't think so. Who elected Donald Rumsfeld to be the boss?

,xtG
.tsooJ

Alright, first off, if you can see this happening, I guarantee you that Bush, the military, the presidential cabinet, they know it just as well. It is pretty obvious that they're orchestrating what they do to cause as little collateral damage as possible (with the supreme objective still being to remove Saddam Hussein).

It's interesting that your blurbs about Sunday picnics and such remind me more of Saddam's speech in response to the opening attacks. (Seriously, could we repeat, "Draw your swords!" one more time? Please?)

And how about the military folks in the cabinet? They're there 'cause they're good at what they do, and it's hard to get around that. I find it hard to believe that you could suggest an uninformed and short-sighted decision on this one.

goandeatsomestuff · 2003-03-24 8:42 pm

one of two things will happen
1) nothing (yay! what everyone wants!)
2)saddam will do something incredibly stupid, with every country involved nearby along with countless civilians, and baghdad will be a wasteland sad

oh yea theres a third

3) castro will join in the fighting and take over florida then move up the east coast with a massive cuban army until they control america eek

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