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You spouted that same smurf last time this subject came up. I don't believe that my religion's practice of circumcision is to reduce sexual appetite, and I wonder where you got that information. Furthurmore, I don't feel as though some travesty has been committed against me by my parents having me circumsized, nor do I feel as though my body has been mutilated. I don't think it makes much of a difference.

But my real point is that you don't have to shove that smurf down our throats. I can believe what I want. And you can believe what you want. Are you cut?

I think it was pretty obvious he was discussing it from a medical standpoint for the general population - not as a religious practice for a specific group of people.

I don't quite hold as extreme a viewpoint as XYZ, but I do believe it to be a barbaric and unnecessary process.
I would be intrigued to see a study comparing erections between circumcised and uncircumcised penises. Given that the foreskin rolls back and 'merges' with the rest of the skin on the shaft during an erection, I think there would be a difference in friction, given there'd be less skin on the circumcised penis.

I am cut, but would not do it to my child. Seems rather pointless.

My wife and I just learned that we're having a little baby girl.  We've known for the past 4 months that we are pregnant.  Now that we know we're having a little girl we've decided to name her Sarah.  We've already decided that, two or three days after she's born, we'e going to have an intern or a sergoen at the hospital to take my little daughter, strap her down on a plastic bed that has been molded to the average size that she should be, and without any anesthesia the doctor or intern will cut the skin surrounding her to be developed clitoris.  We don't want her clitoris removed, just the proctective skin that surrounds it.  I would like her clitoris to rub against and be un proected by her diapers and the underwear that she will wear for the rest of her life.  As I understand, when she is much older she will have men licking her vagina.  I don't wan't any guy to see, smell, or taste the natural anti-bodies nor the natural lubricant that has developed under the skin that protects her clitoris.  I hear that many man think that the clitoris, with it's natural surrounding skin is ugly, so, I am pleased to have it removed so she won't be embarrassed later in life.  I'm also glad that I had the skin removed around her clitoris when she was just a few days old, even without anesthesia, because she won't remember the "operation" when she's older.

:Hoping to hell that was a joke:

Is it still legal in the US? The British Goverment is trying quite hard to prevent it being performed either in Britain or abroad.

My wife an I are completely serious.

Is waht still legal in the US?  What is the British Government trying quite hard to prevent?  I don't understand.

Uncut is the standard in white, middle-class England.
I still believe circumcision isn't required in the 'Modern World' and FGM is a horrific practice.

Middle Class, perhaps.  You're King to be was circumsized and his children with Princess Diana,  Prince William Arthur Philip Louis and Prince Henry Charles Albert were not circumsized.

Just to let everyone know that.

The new word for today is: smegma.

This is the yeasty stuff that grows under the foreskin. It is easily removed with modern hygeine practices. I find that ten minutes with a wire brush and Pine-O-Clean once a month is sufficient.

One serious problem that can emerge in uncut boys in adolescence is phimosis.

This is when the opening of the foreskin is too tight to allow the glans to emerge easily. It feels like a knife-blade around the head of the penis, and the frenula (the web of skin between the glans and the foreskin) may be stretched, or even torn if intercourse is attempted.

The simplest remedy in this case is circumcision. In my case, a plastic surgeon rebuilt the frenula and part of the foreskin.

And now a word from the medical profession as to why they perform circumcisions:

(I heard this on a radio program several years ago.)

A surgeon at a teaching hospital had his students watch him as he delivered a baby. The doctor was in the theatre, the students were in a viewing gallery above.

After he had delivered the baby he cut the cord, cleaned up the baby and performed a circumcision.

"I suppose you wonder why I did that," he asked the students. "I did that for forty-five dollars."

I think XYZ is prejudiced against all of us circumcised people, and he's trying to bring in "facts" to show that we're abnormal and unnatural and don't function as well.

I'm disappointed in you, Tallgeese. Usually, your posts are good. But, this time you're really out of line.

#1. My foreskin was ripped off when I was a baby. As with many mutilations, part of the glans was ripped off, too. That left me with a bumpy irritable ridge around it.

#2. Because of the friction of clothing and hands, the sensitivity of my glans is only a fraction of what it was when I was a little kid. Scoff all you like, but circumcision was designed for a single purpose, to reduce sexual appetite by reducing the amount of feeling in the genitals. Female circumcision is the same.

[i]I think he should clarify his point of view instead of hiding behind innuendo and hyperbole though

well, circumcission originated way back when people can't keep their hygiene as well as we do today, so to prevent infection or anythig bad happening from the penis not being properly cleaned/maintained, they simply cut the 'excess' skin that might trap bacteria and germs..

No. That's false. It was an act of ritual mutilation, just as female circumcision is an act of ritual mutilation. In both cases, the mutilation is designed to reduce sexual appetite.

i think that makes perfect sense...considering the culture and religion that came up with circumission

i was just agreeing with XYZ that it can also be a matter of cultural tradition and religious rituals. 

I think XYZ is prejudiced against all of us circumcised people, and he's trying to bring in "facts" to show that we're abnormal and unnatural and don't function as well.

My cut willy functions damn well. Ask my fiance.

Oh, and I would like my sons to be cut as well. We have showers and stuff now, but if civilization ends, I don't want them left with germ traps.

What they don't know won't hurt them. 

Really though, separate times here, people. I'm afraid I'm not quite studly enough to pull that off.

Was your circumcision a religious one or a medical one?

or traditional?