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conpen2000 · 2003-01-02 1:46 pm

http://toastytech.com/guis/rhapboot.png
http://toastytech.com/guis/rhaplogging.png
http://toastytech.com/guis/rhapgames.png

GAAAAAH! WHO IS RESPONISBLE FOR THIS?! It's like a 1997 cross between OS 9 and some tweak-assed 1999 Mandrake/Wine bastard child!

What Apple CEO started this? I am pretty sure this was the thing Apple was working on before Jobs started up the OSX project. And doesn't that last screenshot look like, uh, idaknow, CHESS AND iTUNES!? ITS A CONSPIRACY!!!!

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skymt0 · 2003-01-02 1:49 pm

Rhapsody = very early OS X. Or at least I think so.

conpen2000 · 2003-01-02 1:49 pm

And another thing, IS THAT THE BEACHBALL?! EEP! When was this thing invented!? >-o tweeeek

And WHY wasn't that cool fratical app included in X? Has anyone seen it before?

mr. jingles · 2003-01-02 1:52 pm

Argh! Now I want to pluck my eyes out.

skymt0 · 2003-01-02 1:55 pm

And another thing, IS THAT THE BEACHBALL?! EEP! When was this thing invented!? >-o tweeeek

And WHY wasn't that cool fratical app included in X? Has anyone seen it before?

It might be this.

registered_user · 2003-01-02 2:10 pm

Rhapsody = very early OS X. Or at least I think so.

I think it was a very early OS9 for that matter. Wasn't it annonced during Gil's reign?

skymt0 · 2003-01-02 2:13 pm

Rhapsody = very early OS X. Or at least I think so.
I think it was a very early OS9 for that matter. Wasn't it annonced during Gil's reign?

Maybe, but if that's the case, what's up with all the ".app"s?

opium · 2003-01-02 2:14 pm

Rhapsody = very early OS X. Or at least I think so.

I think your are right. then Rhapsody became OS X Server.

skymt0 · 2003-01-02 2:18 pm

Rhapsody = very early OS X. Or at least I think so.
I think your are right. then Rhapsody became OS X Server.

I thought so. big_smile

iboy · 2003-01-02 2:39 pm

What the hell are you all talking about. OS X is not related to rhapsody in terms of code. Rhapsody and Copland were what Apple was working on for their "next gen os". Later, both were scrapped, and they made Mac OS X instead.

Short Circuit · 2003-01-02 2:49 pm

someone just loves Photoshop...

W

gozer · 2003-01-02 2:59 pm

copland....rhapsody...copsody....

waitaminute......

Da Penguin · 2003-01-02 3:03 pm

I finally get to say this...... NEWBS!!!!!!

Hehe. Rhapsody history is LOTS of fun, and I know a good bit of it, and have a good bit of the software for it. Anyhue, lets start with Steve Jobs...

After being removed from apple, he went off and helped start NeXT. This ran on the NeXT cubes and very much resembled those pictures, only, had no dekstop, wa all grayscale for the most part, and had a weird app switcher/dock thing...

Soon NeXT realized its hardware (NeXT cubes and Slabs) was lacking and overpriced (gee soudns familiar...) and so they went to a more software oriented company. Soon they upgraded NeXT and ported it to Intel Hardware, called OpenStep.

From there Rhapsody developed, first DR1, which did very little, and then DR 2 and full release 1.0, these two looked like the pictures, and were like Mac OS X server 0.9. They ran a OS 8.0 evnvironment, and there was a port to windows, that created an OS 8 environment on Intel hardware.

When I say OS 8 look, its is in a sense of only the VERY broad GUI sense. The underpinnings of the OS were based on earlier versions of the mach kernel and all. It had OS X's column view as well as the ".app" pkg system.

OS X server 1.x evolved from there, and it is then that the Intel ports stop being released, at least publicly, and this is where the "marklar" rumour may prove true.

In any regard, that is my brief history lesson. I may have skipped things and whatnot, infact I'm sure I did. If you have any questions, or someone wants to elaborate, go ahead.

~The Penguin

drewb2b · 2003-01-03 1:46 pm

That's pretty much it. Copland, as we all know, was to become Apple's next gen OS. When they finally realized that it was a bunch of crap that was never going to be finished - they started to shop around for an OS that they could buy, and make their own. Be inc, and NeXT were the two companies most likely being considered for the purchase.

NeXT (obviously) won, and was purchased by Apple. OS 8 and Rhapsody (which really was nothing more than a code name; similar to Puma, or Jaguar) were being developed along side each other, until the day when Rhapsody would take over as the OS full time. Like the previous post said, Rhapsody was built upon OpenStep, which is what the NeXT OS eventually had morphed into.

Things like Yellow Box and Blue Box, were replaced with Cocoa, and Carbon. Much of what Rhapsody was built with, became the OS we have today -- OS X.

Copland died, and never had a part in any Rhapsody development.

Now that I think of it... there is a website that has a pretty good detailed story:

http://www.apple-history.com/h6.html

Also, I found this old cNet story about Apple demoing Rhapsody:
http://news.com.com/2100-1001-203615.html?tag=bplst

Enjoy...

Wondering Mac User · 2003-01-03 1:59 pm

After they bought NeXT they gave OS X the same GUI as Rhapsody. IMHO, this advanced platinum appearance was way better than Aqua (the main reason why I stick with 9).

Apple should have let Platinum as a selectable option in OS X. At least, it wouldn't take 32MB of VRAM to get decent window scrolling... roll

This way, all G3 macs would have been able to run it perfectly (as fast as OS 9) smile

~Coxy · 2003-01-04 7:38 am

The slowdown on old G3s can't be attributed solely to Aqua, you know.
Besides, is Aqua is what you get with Quartz, I'll take it any day.

mediocresau · 2003-01-04 8:00 am

maybe I'm naive, but it sounds like this was a dark time in Apple's history. confused

Wondering Mac User · 2003-01-04 11:39 am

maybe I'm naive, but it sounds like this was a dark time in Apple's history.

You know, when you read some newspapers and columns, every single days is a dark time in Apple history wink

Jokes aside, in the mid 1990's, Apple was in search for a modern OS. In the early 2000's, Apple is in search for modern hardware.... looks like a spinning wheel...

Zapski · 2003-01-05 9:07 am

Obviously none of you adopted the FIRST OSX Server, back in the Mac OS 8.6 days. wink

Rhapsody was the first adaptation of NeXT for the Mac, and was the base from which the current OSX was built. OSX Server, Version 1.2.1 was the highest that this ever reached. And Yes it had the above modified Platinum interface and spinning rainbow (a NeXT thing) waaaaay back in 1999.

I used to run a file server on OSX Version 1.2.1 on a G4 400 with a 250 gig LVD SCSI RAID. It was awful. It went fast, but there was an undocumented / unacknowledged bug (this has since been resolved) that made it nearly useless for file serving (about once a week the file serving services froze up, HUP didn't work, and only restarting seemed to resolve it). As an e-mail or web server it was fine.

Classic was known as Blue Box, and it took over the entire screen. So if BB crashed, it locked you out from the rest of the machine. Users and Groups could only be managed from a Java web interface on a DIFFERENT machine. There was an early version of Quartz that wasn't Display PDF, but instead was Display PostScript (which was pretty snappy, but limited). Much of the BSD sub system was missing.

Definitely not ready for Prime time.

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