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#1 2003-07-09 11:09 pm

Beaverfuzz1
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Another quirk with Mail...

Ok, I download my email through mail, presumably taking it off the mail server so that I couldn't get it again.  But if I then go through OS 9 and OutLook Express 2.0.6 I can get my mail a second time, like I didn't even take it off the server.  Anyone else have this problem?

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#2 2003-07-09 11:19 pm

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Re: Another quirk with Mail...

Yeah, it happens to me to.  No idea what causes/solves it.  Heck, I can't even get an answer to the question I've posted in multiple forums about the default outgoing email account. 

I guess I'll have to go dig up my old "Magic 8-Ball."


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#3 2003-07-09 11:38 pm

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Re: Another quirk with Mail...

When you do this, is the mail a duplicate of just the last download you did?

If so, Mail might not delete the messages on the server at the time of download, it might delete at the next connection to retrieve mail.

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#4 2003-07-10 11:12 am

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Re: Another quirk with Mail...

If you are using .Mac you are using IMAP and the mail isn't deleted just because you access it.

As far as I know, that is the advantage to an IMAP server... you can access your email from anywhere even without your own machine.


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#5 2003-07-10 7:09 pm

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Re: Another quirk with Mail...

it is an exact duplication (minus any new mail).  The new email that arrives if I use Outlook would then show up the next time I ran mail.

I think I might just stick with Outlook since I believe if I take it off from there, mail can't get it.  It's good to know that others have this problem though, not a machine specific error then.

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#6 2003-07-10 8:35 pm

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Re: Another quirk with Mail...

You have to go into the account preferences for each email account you have and tell it when and if you want to delete the messages off the server.  I have mine set up so it deletes them off the server if they are over 1 week old.

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#7 2003-07-11 11:12 pm

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Re: Another quirk with Mail...

and I think it's finally working.  Any other mail program took my mail off the server and deleted it off there without any additional button pushing or clicking.  Weird how Mail's default was the complete opposite.

Thanks everyone for the help, I'm getting used to my new G4 (the new lower-priced addition).

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#8 2003-07-13 3:11 pm

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Re: Another quirk with Mail...

Actually, I think it's intentional that Mail doesn't delete things from the server.  Notice that when you press 'delete' it doesn't just go away.  The 'deleted' message is just moved to a different IMAP box.  If I'm correct, Outlook defaults to receiving messages via POP, so these message boxes are all ignored, as are the new/read flags.

In short, this is neither a quirk or an error, it's just the way it's designed.

If you don't go through and forcefully delete the old messages from the "Trash" box, they are automatically removed in a week, I believe (you can set this in the preferences).


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#9 2003-07-13 4:01 pm

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Re: Another quirk with Mail...

I didn't like that at first at all, but now I've come to depend on it.

If you want, you can create an "On My Mac" folder and rules to put everything into it.  It'll be gone from the server, but you'll lose the ability to browse it elsewhere.

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#10 2003-07-13 11:40 pm

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Re: Another quirk with Mail...

I think I can offer some insight. there's a preference for keeping mail on the server that can be adjusted from "right away" to "one day" "one Week" "one month."

I'm assuming that your Outlook app doesn't "know" that mail downloaded it.

Personally I appreciate this as I check me pop mail from both work and home, so I appreciate the messages being left on the server, even thought it does create a little momentary confusion when I try to remember if this is a "new" message or the one I read an hour ago at work...

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