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"I'm currently fascinated how right-wingers who, ten years ago ranted and raved about the deficit and the legacy we were leaving our children, now say, "meh ... the deficit's no big deal."

No right-wingers are "cool" with this unbelievable deficit. Well I don't know any.

This is terrible.

Well, Clay, I'm going to agree with you, disagree with you, and compliment you a little bit, all at the same time, and we'll see what happens.

First, you're probably right that few conservatives/right-wingers are, in their heart of hearts, cool with the deficit. However, I think Shnicky is also right in that many of them are putting on a happy face for it. My guess is that you don't experience this personal/internal contradiction because you are not (as far as I've seen on these boards) a blind cheerleader of all things Republican.

The cheerleaders have had to contort themselves into all sorts of ridiculous positions in order to defend this administration. Bush has brought us bigger government, more spending, a huge deficit, threats to civil liberties, a more aggressive and involved foreign policy -- it's just about every single thing conservatives typically don't want. But since it's Bush doing it, it's OK by them. The deficit isn't Bush's fault. It's Clinton's fault. It's the private sector's fault. It's 9/11's fault. And when the money was good, under Clinton, it wasn't Clinton's doing, it was Reagan's and Reagan's alone, not the private sector's, not some weird happening in global events, just Reagan's, not even Bush #1's.

Someone should really dig through the archives and re-post the old economy debates from around election time (probably just after Bush got into office) and see how the typical Republican explanation for the ebb and flow of the economy jibes with what's being said now.

Or compare it to what's not being said now. Bush and the Reps take a lot of smurf in this forum, but where are the people to defend him and his policies? Back when Clinton was in office, near the end of his term, there were a lot more conservatives around to give Clinton smurf and argue from the vantage point of the conservative ideal. "You just wait and see, when a conservative gets in office, things won't be so smurfed up." But now that a conservative is in office and all of America's problems are far from solved (even as the Reps have complete control of the federal governemt and the Dems are disgustingly impotent)... well, their silence is deafening (as the cliche goes).

Come on!  There has to be some way the Repubs can still pin this on Clinton!

remember: democrats always ruin the economy, but it doesn't show until Republicans take office, and Republicans always improve the economy, but it doesn't show until Democrats take office

Register and go to this article and click the "multimedia" link below the picture of the guy walking on stage to see a really interesting graphic. (I'd post the graphic straight into the forums, but I can't figure out how to do it since the NYT doesn't really give a link for it.)

Scratch that. Got it:

... and take into account they're using Social Security dough to help run the government, and it becomes even scarier.

" The cheerleaders have had to contort themselves into all sorts of ridiculous positions in order to defend this administration."

Man I know exactly what you mean. We all do it a little bit... I'll admit that I pretend to be more devoutly Christian than I really am just for the sake of arguing with atheists. In reality, I normally act like some of the smart-ass atheists on this board that I yell at all the time.

Man I know exactly what you mean. We all do it a little bit... I'll admit that I pretend to be more devoutly Christian than I really am just for the sake of arguing with atheists. In reality, I normally act like some of the smart-ass atheists on this board that I yell at all the time.

Hey, I pretend that I'm a Christian to get chicks.

Has anybody else noticed that Republicans are becoming lliberal (wanting to spend more and more) and Democrats are becoming conservative (wanting to spend less and less)?

Goes to show how meaningless the labels are.

Social Security is a joke, another turd left by the Clinton Administration

                       

Social Security has been around for almost 70 years, numbnuts.

what if you are male, middle class, and white?

Social Security is a joke, another turd left by the Clinton Administration

Are you serious?