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#1 2003-08-19 12:38 pm
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UN Headquarters in Iraq attacked by suicide bomber. Why?
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My theory (the conspiracy kind) is that Donald Rumsfeld hired a foreign terrorist organization to attack the HQ, simply to spite the UN.
My extreme theory aside, how do you think this will affect the UN's attitude towards US occupation of Iraq?
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#2 2003-08-19 12:46 pm
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Re: UN Headquarters in Iraq attacked by suicide bomber. Why?
they might be a bunch of puss hippies and pull out after this one incident. hopefully that's not the case.
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#3 2003-08-19 1:21 pm
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Re: UN Headquarters in Iraq attacked by suicide bomber. Why?
they might be a bunch of puss hippies and pull out after this one incident. hopefully that's not the case.
'Puss hippies?'
Another person stuck in the 60's, I see.
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#4 2003-08-19 1:22 pm
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Re: UN Headquarters in Iraq attacked by suicide bomber. Why?
they might be a bunch of puss hippies and pull out after this one incident. hopefully that's not the case.
'Puss hippies?'
Another person stuck in the 60's, I see.
No need to attack his IQ. Legally retarded or not, he's entitled to his opinion.
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#5 2003-08-19 1:23 pm
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Re: UN Headquarters in Iraq attacked by suicide bomber. Why?
they might be a bunch of puss hippies and pull out after this one incident. hopefully that's not the case.
'Puss hippies?'
Another person stuck in the 60's, I see.No need to attck his IQ. He's entitled to his opinion.
The decade, genius.
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#6 2003-08-19 1:25 pm
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Re: UN Headquarters in Iraq attacked by suicide bomber. Why?
they might be a bunch of puss hippies and pull out after this one incident. hopefully that's not the case.
If they stay will you give them credit for standing firm in the face of adversity? Will you call them brave hippies?
George Bush: "If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator."
George Bush: "One of the hardest parts of my job is to try to connect Iraq to the war on terror."
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#7 2003-08-19 1:32 pm
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Re: UN Headquarters in Iraq attacked by suicide bomber. Why?
The head of the UN mission was killed, and the body count is 20 and may still be rising. It's a godawful mess.
Normally, when the UN is operating in hostile environments, they pull people out. It's not because they're "puss hippies," it's because their job is to provide services and assist people, not keep the peace -- that's the job of the coalition.
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#8 2003-08-19 1:34 pm
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Re: UN Headquarters in Iraq attacked by suicide bomber. Why?
they might be a bunch of puss hippies and pull out after this one incident. hopefully that's not the case.
'Puss hippies?'
Another person stuck in the 60's, I see.No need to attck his IQ. He's entitled to his opinion.
The decade, genius.
sternum was up to his clever tactics again... he knew it was the decade, but thought he'd throw in a little left jab with the IQ comment.
good shot sternum! 
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#9 2003-08-19 1:36 pm
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Re: UN Headquarters in Iraq attacked by suicide bomber. Why?
they might be a bunch of puss hippies and pull out after this one incident. hopefully that's not the case.
If they stay will you give them credit for standing firm in the face of adversity? Will you call them brave hippies?
i never said they were hippies... i was saying in regards to alot of these people wanting America to pull out of Iraq are puss hippies and with that said, if the UN backed out because of this one incident, the UN would be puss hippies.
i like the UN when they do what they were intended to do.
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#10 2003-08-19 1:39 pm
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Re: UN Headquarters in Iraq attacked by suicide bomber. Why?
i never said they were hippies... i was saying in regards to alot of these people wanting America to pull out of Iraq are puss hippies and with that said, if the UN backed out because of this one incident, the UN would be puss hippies.
i like the UN when they do what they were intended to do.
Is it easier to justify all of this smurf to yourself if you can just keep calling the opposition 'hippies?'
A good number of Americans (growing by the day) feel that Iraq wasn't worth it. Many were against from the beginning. Millions of people around the world, as well.
All 'hippies?' What does the word 'hippy' mean to you, anyway?
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#11 2003-08-19 1:44 pm
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Re: UN Headquarters in Iraq attacked by suicide bomber. Why?
i never said they were hippies... i was saying in regards to alot of these people wanting America to pull out of Iraq are puss hippies and with that said, if the UN backed out because of this one incident, the UN would be puss hippies.
i like the UN when they do what they were intended to do.Is it easier to justify all of this smurf to yourself if you can just keep calling the opposition 'hippies?'
A good number of Americans (growing by the day) feel that Iraq wasn't worth it. Many were against from the beginning. Millions of people around the world, as well.
All 'hippies?' What does the word 'hippy' mean to you, anyway?
the majority was, and still is for the war in Iraq.
i use hippies cause all the peace protestors you'd see on tv were big time hippies. and a hippy is a person that puts trees, animals, economy, etc... before human life. one that thinks "if it feels good, it must be right". one that will not agree with war no matter what the cause. etc...
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#12 2003-08-19 1:47 pm
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Re: UN Headquarters in Iraq attacked by suicide bomber. Why?
i never said they were hippies... i was saying in regards to alot of these people wanting America to pull out of Iraq are puss hippies and with that said, if the UN backed out because of this one incident, the UN would be puss hippies.
i like the UN when they do what they were intended to do.Is it easier to justify all of this smurf to yourself if you can just keep calling the opposition 'hippies?'
A good number of Americans (growing by the day) feel that Iraq wasn't worth it. Many were against from the beginning. Millions of people around the world, as well.
All 'hippies?' What does the word 'hippy' mean to you, anyway?the majority was, and still is for the war in Iraq.
i use hippies cause all the peace protestors you'd see on tv were big time hippies. and a hippy is a person that puts trees, animals, economy, etc... before human life. one that thinks "if it feels good, it must be right". one that will not agree with war no matter what the cause. etc...
I guess, then, you subscribe to some sort of quasi-Catholic "if it feels good, it must be wrong" philosophy?
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#13 2003-08-19 1:48 pm
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Re: UN Headquarters in Iraq attacked by suicide bomber. Why?
so a hedonistic pacifist environmentalist is a hippy? and you think that there are tons of these people?
I still believe in liberalism today as much as I ever did, but, oh, there was a happy time when I believed in liberals.
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#14 2003-08-19 1:51 pm
Re: UN Headquarters in Iraq attacked by suicide bomber. Why?
the majority was, and still is for the war in Iraq.
Speaking as a supporter of OIF, you're dead wrong. Just like you are about everything else, so I guess it's not too surprising.
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#15 2003-08-19 1:53 pm
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Re: UN Headquarters in Iraq attacked by suicide bomber. Why?
i use hippies cause all the peace protestors you'd see on tv were big time hippies. and a hippy is a person that puts trees, animals, economy, etc... before human life. one that thinks "if it feels good, it must be right". one that will not agree with war no matter what the cause. etc...
I was against the war.
Am I a hippie?
You are aware that a LOT of people who are not against war 'no matter what' were specifically against THIS one?
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#16 2003-08-19 2:02 pm
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Re: UN Headquarters in Iraq attacked by suicide bomber. Why?
i use hippies cause all the peace protestors you'd see on tv were big time hippies. and a hippy is a person that puts trees, animals, economy, etc... before human life. one that thinks "if it feels good, it must be right". one that will not agree with war no matter what the cause. etc...
I was against the war.
Am I a hippie?
You are aware that a LOT of people who are not against war 'no matter what' were specifically against THIS one?
yes, there were a lot, but the majority was for this war effort. majority meaning more than anyone else. there's a lot of people who like cow tounge, but not the majority.
what were your reasons for being against the war?
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#17 2003-08-19 2:06 pm
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Re: UN Headquarters in Iraq attacked by suicide bomber. Why?
yes, there were a lot, but the majority was for this war effort. majority meaning more than anyone else. there's a lot of people who like cow tounge, but not the majority.
what were your reasons for being against the war?
Sure, sure...the 'majority' also believes that WMD's have already been found and that Iraq has been connected to the events of 9-11.
I was against the war because:
1. I believe that the US's intentions were mainly monetary in nature.
2. I cannot believe that the intentions were otherwise when it seems fairly apparent that the Bush Administration attempted to mislead the public into believing Iraq was a threat to the U.S. (and no, I'm not talking about the speech).
Hippie, then?
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#18 2003-08-19 2:07 pm
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Re: UN Headquarters in Iraq attacked by suicide bomber. Why?
i use hippies cause all the peace protestors you'd see on tv were big time hippies. and a hippy is a person that puts trees, animals, economy, etc... before human life. one that thinks "if it feels good, it must be right". one that will not agree with war no matter what the cause. etc...
I was against the war.
Am I a hippie?
You are aware that a LOT of people who are not against war 'no matter what' were specifically against THIS one?yes, there were a lot, but the majority was for this war effort. majority meaning more than anyone else. there's a lot of people who like cow tounge, but not the majority.
what were your reasons for being against the war?
I don't know about BratBoy, but the main reason I was against the war had to be, well, all the KILLING.
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#19 2003-08-19 2:12 pm
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Re: UN Headquarters in Iraq attacked by suicide bomber. Why?
i use hippies cause all the peace protestors you'd see on tv were big time hippies. and a hippy is a person that puts trees, animals, economy, etc... before human life. one that thinks "if it feels good, it must be right". one that will not agree with war no matter what the cause. etc...
I was against the war.
Am I a hippie?
You are aware that a LOT of people who are not against war 'no matter what' were specifically against THIS one?yes, there were a lot, but the majority was for this war effort. majority meaning more than anyone else. there's a lot of people who like cow tounge, but not the majority.
what were your reasons for being against the war?I don't know about BratBoy, but the main reason I was against the war had to be, well, all the KILLING.
against the killing saddam was doing to his people, or the threat of more deaths that could come via the terrorists harbored in his country?
call me crazy, but if i knew 20 people would die if i didn't act, and 5 people died because i did...i'd see that as a just cause because 15 people didn't die.
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#20 2003-08-19 2:56 pm
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Re: UN Headquarters in Iraq attacked by suicide bomber. Why?
"Rozzlapeed"I don't know about BratBoy, but the main reason I was against the war had to be, well, all the KILLING.[/quote wrote:
Well, I am all for killing.
I see no problems with it.
Much of my life has been devoted to killing.
I have been paid for it.
And I have killed.
I lined up the sights and I squeezed, deliberately ....
All 13 I am certain I killed must have had kinfolk waiting for them....
But I am here and alive ...
They are dead and have been for years.....
I am glad it was them and not me ...
I was a soldier.
I am the reason you are able to make the statement you just did.
Think about it .....
If I did not like the killing bit ...
You just might not be here at all .....
(there is a certain difference in battlefield ethos here, between the US and UK/Australian way. The US method is to saturate the field of fire with lead in the hope that some shots might hit home. The US in Korea had 5 support men to every bayonet - precisely to ensure that supplies [ammo] were continually supplied.
We on the other hand had a supply train of 2 to 1. We had to eke out our ammo. Make EVERY shot count.
THAT is how I KNOW that I made 13 kills. I saw them.)
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#21 2003-08-19 2:57 pm
Re: UN Headquarters in Iraq attacked by suicide bomber. Why?
a hippy is a person that puts trees, animals, economy, etc... before human life.
The economy, eh? I always suspected those bead-wearing flower people were just hoarding General Dynamics stocks.
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#22 2003-08-19 3:05 pm
Re: UN Headquarters in Iraq attacked by suicide bomber. Why?
Anyway, back to the original question. I have no freaking idea why insurgents/guerrilas attatked the UN. The UN, after all, refused to endorse military action in Iraq.
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#23 2003-08-19 3:12 pm
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Re: UN Headquarters in Iraq attacked by suicide bomber. Why?
i use hippies cause all the peace protestors you'd see on tv were big time hippies. and a hippy is a person that puts trees, animals, economy, etc... before human life. one that thinks "if it feels good, it must be right". one that will not agree with war no matter what the cause. etc...
I was against the war.
Am I a hippie?
You are aware that a LOT of people who are not against war 'no matter what' were specifically against THIS one?yes, there were a lot, but the majority was for this war effort. majority meaning more than anyone else. there's a lot of people who like cow tounge, but not the majority.
what were your reasons for being against the war?I don't know about BratBoy, but the main reason I was against the war had to be, well, all the KILLING.
against the killing saddam was doing to his people, or the threat of more deaths that could come via the terrorists harbored in his country?
call me crazy, but if i knew 20 people would die if i didn't act, and 5 people died because i did...i'd see that as a just cause because 15 people didn't die.
I wasn't really being serious. But I was and still am against the war for many reasons:
1. The volatile nature of the Middle East was caused by US imperialist/global capitalist policy.
2. Bush basically said "smurf You" to the UN when its inspectors couldn't find the rationalization for war that he was looking for. Not a good idea when our country is already being seen as an arrogant imperialist nation.
3. The administration has still not stopped terrorism.
4. They are trying to solve that problem by destroying the culture and tradition of the area, rather than addressing the differences between our cultures.
5. What the smurf happened to Osama Bin Laden?
6. Deaths caused by terrorism still do not compare to the number of Americans killed by drunk driving. 17,419 people died from alcohol-related accidents this year alone, compared to the less than 4000 Americans who have ever been killed by terrorist acts. Why is war our priority?
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#24 2003-08-19 3:17 pm
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Re: UN Headquarters in Iraq attacked by suicide bomber. Why?
I don't know about BratBoy, but the main reason I was against the war had to be, well, all the KILLING.
Well, I am all for killing.
I see no problems with it.
Much of my life has been devoted to killing.
I have been paid for it.
And I have killed.
I lined up the sights and I squeezed, deliberately ....
All 13 I am certain I killed must have had kinfolk waiting for them....
But I am here and alive ...
They are dead and have been for years.....
I am glad it was them and not me ...
I was a soldier.
I am the reason you are able to make the statement you just did.
Think about it .....
If I did not like the killing bit ...
You just might not be here at all .....
(there is a certain difference in battlefield ethos here, between the US and UK/Australian way. The US method is to saturate the field of fire with lead in the hope that some shots might hit home. The US in Korea had 5 support men to every bayonet - precisely to ensure that supplies [ammo] were continually supplied.
We on the other hand had a supply train of 2 to 1. We had to eke out our ammo. Make EVERY shot count.
THAT is how I KNOW that I made 13 kills. I saw them.)
Just curious, where did you serve?
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#25 2003-08-19 3:21 pm
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Re: UN Headquarters in Iraq attacked by suicide bomber. Why?
He served in Unplugged, plus two tours in MiniThink.
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