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#26 2003-01-08 7:55 am
- GT
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- From: Wichita,KS,USA
- Registered: 2001-08-30
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Re: What does this mean for the iBook?
If if makes any of you feel better. I just revieved my fully loaded 12" iBook on the Jan. 3rd. I had convinced myself that there wouldn't be any portable announcements since the last revisions had just happened in March. In addition, the place I was getting the iBook from (MCE) was having a special that was pretty good and I'd been saving for this purchase for some time.
Then I saw that 12" Powerbook . . .
. . . now I know that I was stupid.
Of the things I really would have liked, the inability to use the new g wireless standard on my new iBook really really sucks.
I've been doing my best to convince myself that my iBook is still a good deal. It does everything I need it to and it is a great little computer, but that 12" Powerbook taunts me. 
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#27 2003-01-08 10:46 am
- pcguy
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Re: What does this mean for the iBook?
GT, the g version wireless might look nice and on paper, but in everyday use, I really doubt you will see any benefit at all for yrs to come, don't forget most laptop wirelss is use to connect to internet thru either your home network, with broadband maz at around 1.5m! it really doesn't matter!
just like the gigabye network card, it look nice on paper, but does anyone actually have use for it?
be happy with your laptop!
As for P4 M ability to slow down the cpu under certain situation, heat/power drain etc! it is a feature we computer user should be happy to see in a mobile cpu! it is not a handicap, it is a benefit!
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#28 2003-01-08 11:14 am
Re: What does this mean for the iBook?
I agree with pcguy on this one. Unless you have multiple computers running g you're not going to notice a difference in net speed.
If you want to transfer stuff fast between even non g-equipped Macs, go to VersionTracker and look up "Firewire over TCP/IP." This allows you to share files just like normal but at Firewire speeds (of course, you need a male-to-male Firewire cable).
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#29 2003-01-08 12:39 pm
Re: What does this mean for the iBook?
I agree with pcguy on this one. Unless you have multiple computers running g you're not going to notice a difference in net speed.
Actually, you'd probably also notice a difference if you have one g machine bridged to an ethernet network via the basestation. That's how my setup is (except that I have a conventional Airport card, of course). I don't use filesharing all that much anyway, though.
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#30 2003-01-08 1:44 pm
Re: What does this mean for the iBook?
What ???
Do you guys only use network for internet ? What about filesharing. I dont have airport at home because with those 10mbps it would take forever to transfer 600mb file from one computer to another. And if i had an option on iBook i would like to use gigabit ethernet because even 100mbps is slow when working with large files and thats not just on paper.
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#31 2003-01-08 9:20 pm
Re: What does this mean for the iBook?
I just got my 12 inch iBook last month and now I'm itching for that 12 inch Powerbook. That was a rotten thing to do Apple! I doubt I could return my iBook now... sigh, any suggestions? I've only had it like 3 weeks!
I did the exact same thing. Now I'm just trying to think of ways to sell my iBook for nearly the same amount then get the last bit of money together (after a while) and buy a 12 inch iBook G4.
Because that's what it is. An iBook G4. They just can't call it that because it would sound like their pro line wasn't any better than the top end of the consumer line. The iBook brand will stay with G3 though, and it will be (and stay) the consumer/education laptop.
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#32 2003-01-08 9:36 pm
- Cobalt60
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Re: What does this mean for the iBook?
Well, I think that if Apple keeps putting faster G3s in them the icebooks will stay around. If Apple goes all G4s I think that is the end of the icebooks. I don't think that casing can take the heat.
I'm not a doctor but I'll take a look!
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#33 2003-01-09 1:44 am
- gido
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- From: City of Angels
- Registered: 2001-03-26
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Re: What does this mean for the iBook?
GT, the g version wireless might look nice and on paper, but in everyday use, I really doubt you will see any benefit at all for yrs to come, don't forget most laptop wirelss is use to connect to internet thru either your home network, with broadband maz at around 1.5m! it really doesn't matter!
just like the gigabye network card, it look nice on paper, but does anyone actually have use for it?
be happy with your laptop!
You're very correct with the above, yet everyone wants to be on the correct side of the technology curve, especially with Macs. The simple reason is because Mac's are used longer on average to there PC brethern. It's one reason why the faithful love there machines so much. As a sidenote, I'm writing this on a Rev. A iBook running 10.2.1, with a 3GB hd. Yeah you heard right. One of these days we're updating the hard drive. It's my wife's everyday machine and I don't see the day we're replacing it anytime soon.
Yet, when you have a chance to be on the tech curve going up, rather than down, you want to be on the curve on the up, as close as you can get at least. It doesn't always work out, and I'm still debating if I want the new baby Ai, or wait for a revised ibook for myself. Just went into the new Pasadena Mac store and saw the baby Ai for myself. It's sweet, loved the look and the feel. By the way they didn't have the 17 inch one yet.
A few notes on it. It's a beaut, the form factor is fantastic. A true notebook is small, I don't care what anyone says. At a distance my wife couldn't tell an ibook from the baby Ai. Yet I still want one. It feels sturdier than an iBook in your hand. The baby Ai's case feels slicker than the 15 inch Tibook next to it. Not sure if it was just hot in the store but that's what I noticed. Also, the color looks lighter than the Tibooks, that aluminum sure does look pretty though. I didn't hold it long enough to notice if it ran hot in my hands, too many people around me waiting to check it out. And, yes the keyboard does feel sturdier than an iBooks.
In the end, my first impression was a good one, nothing betrayed yesterday's technolust fot it. I'll wait as long as I can and wait to see if my infactuation rubs off, but I expect to purchase this the day after Steve's MWNY speech.
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#34 2003-01-09 8:22 am
- ShnickyShnack
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Re: What does this mean for the iBook?
What's the size like, compared with the iceBooks? Are they exactly the same dimensions, or is the new tiny Powerbook smaller? I guess it must be thinner, but what about the other dimensions?
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#35 2003-01-09 8:31 am
- buddshepherd
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- Registered: 2002-02-06
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Re: What does this mean for the iBook?
I bought a new iBook combo last year at the end of Jan. I got a better deal because of the new (at the time) 14 inch iBook.
After owning a number of Apples starting with a 512 I've developed one rule. Never buy the first release of any new Apple product line. Sure it looks drool worthy but you can almost bet money on two things.
1. It is gonna break!!!
2. Six months to a year later the price WILL go down, and the spec will go up!
Right now the top-o-the-line iBook is a beautiful thing. Form, function, and nice speed. The new iBooks seem to be pretty durable, have much better Combo drives than my old 600, and they have a history. You know what you are getting!
Let the folks who love new gadgets do the beta testing on the shiny new powerbook and enjoy your proven to be a good thing iBook!
Next Feb, sell your iBook for a premium on ebay to someone who wants to boot in OS 9 and buy the 12 inch powerbook.
At least that is my plan, heh, heh, heh...
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