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jeez guys you cant figure that out

Umm, we did figure that out..  It's Apple you need to speak to.  Then again, maybe it would be more beneficial if you just stop saying anything.

i've grown accustomed to a 6 button track ball with a scrolling ring (i had to lose my 8 button mouse because of wrist pains), but i still think the single button mouse and keyboard is a better setup. i just dont sit ergonomically correct so it doesnt work as well for me.

i think apple is justified in using a single button mouse. its just better for you not to mention the simplicity for people who don't post incessantly on online forums and are computer geeks (yes, we are) who know most hidden/obscure funtions of our os.

on that note, i think scroll wheels are okay as long as they're not a part of your main input device. then, they are evil and should be destroyed, burned and ground up into tiny little pieces.

Apple made a Stupid.

troll

Multi-button mice are for slovenly people who are too dumb to tell 'X' from "Page Up."

Apple made a Stupid.

troll

   Irony Rules!

You're talking about GUI concepts (for which there is support in both directions, both in written books and common sense examples derived from circumstances and experiences of the real world).  I'm talking about the movements and positions of the hand/arm when using single-button vs. multi-button and that I'm quite certain multi-button mice cause more RSI than single-button mice (percentage relative to the number of devices of each type in use).  GUI concepts, ease of use, and "hotkey" access have absolutely no bearing on physical movement and ergonomics.

The elevated wrist position, finger and thumb extension (and hyper-extension), continuous isolated finger movements, typically raised finger for utilizing the scroll wheel, and unnatural wrist and forearm movements which are typical for using multi-button mice (especially larger ones with the "ergonomic" curve to make the mouse fit into the right hand) all strike me as unnatural, un-ergonomic, and potentially damaging and painful movements and hand positions.

Apple made a Stupid.

troll

   Irony Rules!

You're talking about GUI concepts (for which there is support in both directions, both in written books and common sense examples derived from circumstances and experiences of the real world).  I'm talking about the movements and positions of the hand/arm when using single-button vs. multi-button and that I'm quite certain multi-button mice cause more RSI than single-button mice (percentage relative to the number of devices of each type in use).  GUI concepts, ease of use, and "hotkey" access have absolutely no bearing on physical movement and ergonomics.

The elevated wrist position, finger and thumb extension (and hyper-extension), continuous isolated finger movements, typically raised finger for utilizing the scroll wheel, and unnatural wrist and forearm movements which are typical for using multi-button mice (especially larger ones with the "ergonomic" curve to make the mouse fit into the right hand) all strike me as unnatural, un-ergonomic, and potentially damaging and painful movements and hand positions.

I've used a 2 button mouse all the time I've used a computer. I've never had any problems with it. Clicking either button is anologous to hitting a key on a keyboard. I've actually got a slightly stronger wrist because of the mouse. The mouse also helped recouperate my right wrist after I broke it. Using the scroll button is a similar movement to feeling something with your finger. If I could I would get a track ball because I'm really fond of my precision with it.

on apple.com the main page has the new kb and mouse

well it says "powered by bluetooth"

isnt it powered by AA bateries and connected by bluetooth

hmmm apple get your wording right

Different meaning of the word. "Powered by Intel P4", the P4 doesn't provide the juice, the wall outlet does.

its not bluetooths slogen or anything i just think "connected by bluetooth" sounds better and creates less confusion i could imagine a switcher or newbie seeing that ad and thinking it will never need batteries then later finding out it wasnt like that

on apple.com the main page has the new kb and mouse

well it says "powered by bluetooth"

isnt it powered by AA bateries and connected by bluetooth

hmmm apple get your wording right

Different meaning of the word. "Powered by Intel P4", the P4 doesn't provide the juice, the wall outlet does.

its not bluetooths slogen or anything i just think "connected by bluetooth" sounds better and creates less confusion i could imagine a switcher or newbie seeing that ad and thinking it will never need batteries then later finding out it wasnt like that

I'd be more worried about a newbie because a switcher should know better. Slogans or not language like that is all over the place in advertising/marketing let alone in the computer field. If you don't understand the vernacular, learn it.

Well, Apple has officially lost its mind in creating yet another line of one-button mice. Even though they look nice, and are wireless Apple products, I wouldn't touch one with a ten foot pole.

My Logitch MX500 offers 7 buttons and a scrollie... which would you pick? Hot damn.

You're talking about GUI concepts (for which there is support in both directions, both in written books and common sense examples derived from circumstances and experiences of the real world).  I'm talking about the movements and positions of the hand/arm when using single-button vs. multi-button and that I'm quite certain multi-button mice cause more RSI than single-button mice (percentage relative to the number of devices of each type in use).  GUI concepts, ease of use, and "hotkey" access have absolutely no bearing on physical movement and ergonomics.

The elevated wrist position, finger and thumb extension (and hyper-extension), continuous isolated finger movements, typically raised finger for utilizing the scroll wheel, and unnatural wrist and forearm movements which are typical for using multi-button mice (especially larger ones with the "ergonomic" curve to make the mouse fit into the right hand) all strike me as unnatural, un-ergonomic, and potentially damaging and painful movements and hand positions.

That is just so much BS and you are so full of crap! Now what? Why don't you just shut up now. you are a jerk, even if it is against some lame ass troll

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