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My Logitch MX500 offers 7 buttons and a scrollie... which would you pick? Hot damn.

How much is that again?

I seen that one around for 49.99 with a cord

I'm not flaming apple. They make a design choice and stick to it. Their users like it and it works, so hey, more power to them. I just ordered my first ibook and am looking forward to using it sans mouse but this does not change FACTS.

That is just so much BS and you are so full of crap! Now what? Why don't you just shut up now. you are a jerk, even if it is against some lame ass troll

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How am I a troll? I guess if I am not a raging apple fanboy* I'm a troll?

I pointed out a (what i consider) a minor flaw in their system and the fact that they choose to leave it this way because they don't view it is a flaw.
I'm still quite excited about my new ibook and twistedguy at least has some reasonable grounds to argue his point without just flaming someone mindlessly.

In conclusion, get back under the bridge troll


*not yet anyway

Hey, castration is now the new trend 

I thought it was interesting...I just looked at the specs for the keyboard/mouse. The keyboard uses 4 alkaline batteries while the mouse uses Lithium batteries...

um why?

First off, Apple should make them run on NiMH batts, not alkaline. Lithium? Probably because they are lighter and have a higher capacity than alkaline, but they are more expensive.

I thought it was interesting...I just looked at the specs for the keyboard/mouse. The keyboard uses 4 alkaline batteries while the mouse uses Lithium batteries...

um why?

First off, Apple should make them run on NiMH batts, not alkaline. Lithium? Probably because they are lighter and have a higher capacity than alkaline, but they are more expensive.

Well, as long as you get the same size and voltage, alkaline and NiMH batteries are completely interchangeable.  In fact, though they cost a lot more, so are the AA, AAA, etc. Lithium batteries.  So, theoretically, you could go down to Radio Shack or wherever and get rechargeable Lithium or NiMH batteries to use in a wireless Apple keyboard as long as you get the same size and voltage as the batteries Apple includes with it.

Your close. NiMH are not always interchangeable with alkaline. Alkaline are 1.5v while NiMH are 1.2v and some devises are very picky about that. Also Radio Shack is a rip off I can go to Target and get better NiMH batts for much less. Switching between NiMH and Lithium should be no problemo since they are both 1.2v

First of all, these Bluetooth mice and keyboards are superior to the RF ones because they do not require an extra USB dongle (except computers without Bluetooth built in). Bluetooth is a wireless standard, so any Bluetooth device should work with any other Bluetooth device.

That said, I was quite dissapointed by these Bluetooth mice and keyboards, other than the fact that they're made by Apple and have relatively good battery life. The mouse is very lame, and the keyboard is a little lame.


The mouse:

One button? No scroll wheel? Blah. And who's great idea was it to make a wireless mouse completley symetrical so that people will constantly accidently flip it upside down and be confused when their coordinates are switched (sure theres a little Apple logo but who actually looks at their mouse?)

The battery life is actually decent compared to the MS version. Apple claims 3 months, but we'll see. I think I got about 1 month with my Microsoft Bluetooth mouse.


The keyboard:

I am still considering buying the keyboard. I already have the Microsoft Bluetooth keyboard, but it's a Windows keyboard so support is limited and it has lame things like a Start key and Application key, and a bunch of multimedia buttons that I wish would work (anyambitious programmers out there? ). I like the feel of the MS keyboard but its a little big.

The things I really like about the Apple Bluetooth keyboard is the battery life. Apple claims 9 months, but once again we'll see. I've been using the MS Bluetooth keyboard for about a month and it hasn't died yet The Apple BT keyboard also has 128 bit encryption, whic I'm not sure if the MS one does, but that seems like a good idea for the keyboard (who cares about the mouse). And the adaptive frequency hoping or whatever also seems good. Again, I don't know if the MS one has that.


Like I said, I've had the Microsoft Wireless Optical Desktop for Bluetooth for about a month now, and I've been pretty happy with it. For some reason the keyboard didn't work with my DLink Bluetooth adapter, so I'm using the one MS supplied with the set.

I'm usually completely anti-MS, but some of their hardware is decent, so I don't mind recommending their Bluetooth mouse, and possibly keyboard. The mouse has 5 buttons (right, left, scroll, and forward/back) but the 2 extra buttons and scroll button don't work (but the right/left and scroll wheel do)

If I were to do it again, I would buy the Microsoft mouse and the Apple keyboard.

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That is just so much BS and you are so full of crap! Now what? Why don't you just shut up now. you are a jerk, even if it is against some lame ass troll

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An AC adapter seems excessive for a keyboard and mouse, how about a USB cable that provides power?

An AC adapter seems excessive for a keyboard and mouse, how about a USB cable that provides power?

Apple should just provide two sets of rechargeable batteries, to make for easy rotation and less waste.

These are great solutions indeed! I wonder why Apple didn't use any of them   

I am going to make a late entrance and defend the one button mouse. A lot of mistakes people have ever made with windows are crap from left click/right click confusion shenanigans. This is actually something I try to avoid. Two-button mice are $20 anyway.

What I CANT defend is Apple's lust for the color white. WHY?!? Cant we get some blacks or blues?

As for power, why arent they expairementing with solar cells? You could power it sort of like a calculator.... or at least part of it. That sure would help the batteries last longer.

Apple made a Stupid.

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I agree a lot of mistakes are made using more than one button on the mouse.  However, these mistakes are usually made by beginners such as my parents, or some of those  people to whom I teach computers at the continuing education classes for adults at the local community college.  I think that the vast majority of people in the future will be able to handle multiple button mice.

Think about it:  when the calculator first came out, many people did not know how to use it.  Now, most any person can grab a calculator and use its basic functions.  Remember when you first hooked up a VCR/CD/or DVD player?  Remember how you had to learn audio left/right, video in/out?  Now you can do it in your sleep.  When DVD's first came out, people had trouble adjusting to "hidden features' and "optional viewing angles," but now most people use these features as second nature. 

While Apple's one-button mouse is fine for beginners, there might come a time when it is too basic for a population born and raised with computers.    It's like this: there used to be some old walkmans (that played tapes, you know, those things people used to play and record music before CD's and CD-R's) that did not have a "Rewind" button.  Instead, people used to flip the tape over and press "Fast Forward," then flip the tape over again and play (that was how rewind was done).  I'm sure when the "Rewind" button was added, several people complained about the "added complexity" and there was "no good reason for an extra button" but we can all agree that having a Rewind button was a pretty good idea.  Right-clicking for a contextual menu (rewind button) seems like a very nice convenience instead of having to use the second hand to hold down a keyboard key (flipping over tape, pressing "FF", flipping tape over again, press play), without that much "complexity" being added to the overall computing experience.

i think your right, but i dont think the vast majorit of consumers will be able to use a 2 button mouse well for a very long time. this provides an elegant solution to those who want a simple wireless mouse. (and i cant stress enough how much of a benefit no dongle is)