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#76 2003-09-21 9:22 am

mahakali
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Re: 2 women kissing?

In a male chauvinistic society:
1. Women are sexual objects.
2. If you find other men attractive, you're gay, you're pussy, you're less of a man.

That's why most men try to appear 'masculine' by overstating how they love women (naked or not, making out with other women, etc.) Anyone who believes men (in general) enjoy seeing women kissing because men are ugly, doesn't have a slight idea of what beauty is.

It's not just male chauvinism, in my opinion. I know plenty of women who have the same double standards over men and women kissing.

I know a lot of male chauvinistic women. It's not male or female that is to 'blame' (if you find this whole thing problematic.) Women have their own share building this kind of society.


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#77 2003-09-21 9:53 am

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Re: 2 women kissing?

Anyone who believes men (in general) enjoy seeing women kissing because men are ugly, doesn't have a slight idea of what beauty is.

Yay! - I haven't the slightess idea of what beauty is!  smile


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#78 2003-09-21 11:18 am

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Re: 2 women kissing?

<uber dyke mode>

I think men are turned on by women kissing each other as long as they are stereotypically 'feminine', and not two butch dykes.

And everything everyone has said in this thread about women's bodies vs. men's yada yada etc etc.

</uber dyke mode>


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#79 2003-09-21 11:23 am

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Re: 2 women kissing?

<uber dyke mode>

I think men are turned on by women kissing each other as long as they are stereotypically 'feminine', and not two butch dykes.

And everything everyone has said in this thread about women's bodies vs. men's yada yada etc etc.

</uber dyke mode>

-gasp-  You mean to say that men aren't aroused by women whom they do not find attractive?   eek


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#80 2003-09-21 12:13 pm

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Re: 2 women kissing?

thats what "curvey" means
tito

Let's see an image that hasn't been photoshopped.


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#81 2003-09-21 12:17 pm

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Re: 2 women kissing?

thats what "curvey" means
tito

Let's see an image that hasn't been photoshopped.

I doubt the curves were added in, just her skin texture, etc.

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#82 2003-09-21 12:31 pm

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Re: 2 women kissing?

As I said before, Men are ugly - Women are beautiful. So instead of having one ugly person kissing one beautiful person; we have two beautiful people kissing - why wouldn't this be better?

do you mean that all men are ugly? and that all women are beautiful? if you do, then you really don't know how to appreciate beauty and i feel very sorry for you.


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#83 2003-09-21 12:49 pm

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Re: 2 women kissing?

As I said before, Men are ugly - Women are beautiful. So instead of having one ugly person kissing one beautiful person; we have two beautiful people kissing - why wouldn't this be better?

do you mean that all men are ugly? and that all women are beautiful? if you do, then you really don't know how to appreciate beauty and i feel very sorry for you.

eh its a subjective thing


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#84 2003-09-21 1:20 pm

mahakali
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Re: 2 women kissing?

As I said before, Men are ugly - Women are beautiful. So instead of having one ugly person kissing one beautiful person; we have two beautiful people kissing - why wouldn't this be better?

do you mean that all men are ugly? and that all women are beautiful? if you do, then you really don't know how to appreciate beauty and i feel very sorry for you.

eh its a subjective thing

And I find women in camouflage more attractive than most. hubba


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#85 2003-09-21 1:29 pm

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Re: 2 women kissing?

Boy, did this thread get off topic. (blames the men for that) big_smile

Yes, so do I.  Oh goshdarnit, I am part of that gender too.  *sigh*

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#86 2003-09-21 1:40 pm

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Re: 2 women kissing?

seems there was a recent study on this:
article 1
article 2

interesting that it said women were pretty much aroused by ff, mf, and mm while men were aroused by mf and had a strong preference for ff.

article from NWU
and some info from NWU including the actual report (scroll down a bit or use the anchor link)

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how come my school never does this kind of research?  is no-one interested in the arousal habits of geeks?
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#87 2003-09-21 1:44 pm

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Re: 2 women kissing?

i should have said more about the category specificness of the arousal.  it's pretty much been covered here, but men tend to find arousal in women so multiple women = multiple arousal.  while women are much more dynamic and interesting (something I've learned over the past 2 and a half years with my girlfriend.  note that the dynamism of women will either be interesting or confusing.  why must you be such strange creatures?  I'm sure women see just as much in us.)


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#88 2003-09-21 3:54 pm

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Re: 2 women kissing?

Boy, did this thread get off topic. (blames the men for that) big_smile

pfft, just like a woman wink

IMHO, woman are seen as gentle, feminine, etc. Kissing is a (or is mostly rather) a more gentle act.

If the average girl wasn't feminine, then they would have called guys feminine and girls masculine. Masculine is not generally seen as gentle, thus two guys kissing would go against the grain (so to speak).

Two girls kissing would be seen as gentle, thus it doesn't contradict our subconscious.

I haven't said everything, but I'm exausted so sorry if I missed words that made things not make sense, but hopefully I said enough to get my point across.


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#89 2003-09-21 4:20 pm

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Re: 2 women kissing?

As I said before, Men are ugly - Women are beautiful. So instead of having one ugly person kissing one beautiful person; we have two beautiful people kissing - why wouldn't this be better?

do you mean that all men are ugly? and that all women are beautiful? if you do, then you really don't know how to appreciate beauty and i feel very sorry for you.

Oh come on, you could have at least said you were quoting me!

And as for the statement, it's all personal taste.  And no, not all women are beautiful, it just happens that most are.

Bah, I think I've just made an ass out of my self.   shrug


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#90 2003-09-21 4:26 pm

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Re: 2 women kissing?

I don't think so. I think most people understand what you meant. smile

Generally speaking, women = pretty. So it's the Wrigley's Principle. Doube your Pleasure, Double your Fun. wink


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#91 2003-09-21 5:28 pm

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Re: 2 women kissing?

Just to play devils advocate....

It's evolutionarily backwards for a man to enjoy girl-girl action.  Think of it in terms as competition for a mate.  Boy-Boy action removes two competetors, so it should be a good thing.  Girl-Girl action removes to possible mates, so it should be a bad thing.

However, the reverse it true, so therefore evolution is false, and the creator made us to enjoy girly-girl love.


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Would your opinions change if it was your girl that was making out with another girl?


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#92 2003-09-21 5:41 pm

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Re: 2 women kissing?

there are some who would like it that much more


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#93 2003-09-21 6:45 pm

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Re: 2 women kissing?

i think society thinks its wrong or unnatural or wierd or bleh,simply because they arent uccustomed to the idea.
when i first admitted to myself i was gay...it seemed really wierd because im FAR from a stereotypical gay guy,and i was wierded out by it....simply because i wasnt used to the idea.
i think thats whats happening in society,people turn their heads in the opposite direction,instead of realizing that its EXACTLY the same as any other couple kissing.its just two members of the same sex.
i also think people have to realize that simply because THEY think its wierd or wrong,doesnt mean anything.

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#94 2003-09-21 7:08 pm

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Re: 2 women kissing?

Personally I find the male body to be repulsive to look at.  The female body on the other hand is pure art.  Thats just whats hardwired into my brain and I'm not complaining. big_smile


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#95 2003-09-21 7:12 pm

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Re: 2 women kissing?

if i was a girl id be lesbian

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#96 2003-09-21 7:14 pm

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Re: 2 women kissing?

If I was a girl I'd always be touching my boobs.


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#97 2003-09-21 7:15 pm

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Re: 2 women kissing?

If I was a girl I'd always be touching my boobs.

If you were a girl I'd always be touching your boobs.


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#98 2003-09-21 7:16 pm

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Re: 2 women kissing?

If I was a girl I'd always be touching my boobs.

If you were a girl I'd always be touching your boobs.

Stop it!  My nipples are getting hard....


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#99 2003-09-21 7:56 pm

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Re: 2 women kissing?

Personally I find the male body to be repulsive to look at. 

You aren't looking at the right pictures.  big_smile

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#100 2003-09-21 7:59 pm

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Re: 2 women kissing?

If I was a girl I'd always be touching my boobs.

If you were a girl I'd always be touching your boobs.

Stop it!  My nipples are getting hard....

blush


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