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#26 2003-09-25 8:21 pm

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Re: Everybody's favorite punching bag

Well with two of dems libral basturds on dat der besselr list its hard to tell da difrence

Fox sued Moore too?

confused

Now I'm confused!

No, but apparently HB seems to think that they did.

Yeah, I got those two confused.

It's easy, given they're both fat, lying windbags.

You just might be clueless.

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#27 2003-09-25 8:39 pm

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Re: Everybody's favorite punching bag

It's easy, given they're both fat, lying windbags.

LOL....you might get sued for using the term 'fat and lying' in your post!  That's Franken's line!

Seriously...what have either one 'lied' about?  What do you think Al Franken has 'lied' about.

Sounds like you're a bit upset but not really sure why.

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#28 2003-09-25 8:54 pm

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Re: Everybody's favorite punching bag

I'm really glad I found this on Moore's site, because I had believed the people saying Moore lied, and it disappointed me.  Other good news is that Moore has lost a decent amount of weight recently.  The healthier he is, the better.  American needs him around.   wink

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#29 2003-09-25 10:16 pm

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Re: Everybody's favorite punching bag

This is from a site Jayhawk linked me to:

Moore has actually taken audio of seven sentences, from five different     parts of the speech, and a section given in a different speech entirely,     and spliced them together. Each edit is cleverly covered by inserting a     still or video footage for a few seconds.
 
First, right after the weeping victims, Moore puts on Heston's "I     have only five words for you . . . cold dead hands" statement, making     it seem directed at them. As noted above, it's actually a thank-you speech     given a year later in North Carolina.

"Making it seemed as if it was directed AT THEM?"  I'm supposed to believe that a speech given by Heston, played over scenes of mourners at Columbine was actually edited with the deceitful motive of making me think that he directed that statement at them?  Who the smurf would actually even consider that?

Such dissection of a DOCUMENTARY (99% of which are made to direct your attention and consideration of an issue in ONE direction) is ridiculous.  It was made to be entertaining, thought-provoking, and to MAKE MONEY.

I can't stand when people would rather cry "liar!" instead of making use of their brain for two seconds.


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#30 2003-09-25 10:37 pm

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Re: Everybody's favorite punching bag

I'm really glad I found this on Moore's site, because I had believed the people saying Moore lied, and it disappointed me.  Other good news is that Moore has lost a decent amount of weight recently.  The healthier he is, the better.  American needs him around.   wink

Unfortunately, he's working on a movie about Bush and the aftermath of 9/11, and I really think there's an excellent chance it's gonna get him killed.


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#31 2003-09-25 10:50 pm

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Re: Everybody's favorite punching bag

Unfortunately, he's working on a movie about Bush and the aftermath of 9/11, and I really think there's an excellent chance it's gonna get him killed.

Dammit SS, I was looking forward to said movie too, and that statement scared the hell out of me, because a quick thought made me realize you are right.


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#32 2003-09-25 11:16 pm

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Re: Everybody's favorite punching bag

I'm really glad I found this on Moore's site, because I had believed the people saying Moore lied, and it disappointed me.  Other good news is that Moore has lost a decent amount of weight recently.  The healthier he is, the better.  American needs him around.   wink

Unfortunately, he's working on a movie about Bush and the aftermath of 9/11, and I really think there's an excellent chance it's gonna get him killed.

I highly doubt anyone, even Bush, would go to the extreme of having Moore killed.  He'll just be brushed off and discredited as much as possible.

And if something horrible like that were to happen, Moore would be martyred, and there would definitely be people to carry on his torch, or whatever. 

By the way, where'd you get your info on this?  I'd like to learn more about this project.

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#33 2003-09-26 12:08 am

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Re: Everybody's favorite punching bag

blah blah blah... Moore is an idiot.

http://www.hardylaw.net/Truth_About_Bowling.html

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#34 2003-09-26 12:15 am

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Re: Everybody's favorite punching bag

Hey look, the website we'd already discredited smile


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#35 2003-09-26 1:11 am

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Re: Everybody's favorite punching bag

big_smile
I knew that would git yer attention.

Locking him up didn't work. Still got out and raped and assaulted.
Prison OBVIOUSLY wasn't a detourant.
That's why they're called REPEAT OFFENDERS.

Don't let the prison lobby hear you say that.

And, unfortunately, "Recidivist" is not stamped on first time incarceratees foreheads. So, unless you have the crystal ball that unerringly predicts recidivism, shut the poop up. To suggest that repentant criminals that have served their time should not be allowed "back into" society because some of them go on to commit additional crimes, is ridiculous. Steal a loaf of bread = life imprisonment?


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#36 2003-09-26 1:34 am

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Re: Everybody's favorite punching bag

Actually, I have found one typo in the theatrical release of the film. It was a caption that read, "Willie Horton released by Dukakis and kills again." In fact, Willie Horton was a convicted murderer who, after escaping from furlough, raped a woman and stabbed her fianc


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#37 2003-09-26 6:10 am

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Re: Everybody's favorite punching bag

This is from a site Jayhawk linked me to:

Moore has actually taken audio of seven sentences, from five different     parts of the speech, and a section given in a different speech entirely,     and spliced them together. Each edit is cleverly covered by inserting a     still or video footage for a few seconds.
 
First, right after the weeping victims, Moore puts on Heston's "I     have only five words for you . . . cold dead hands" statement, making     it seem directed at them. As noted above, it's actually a thank-you speech     given a year later in North Carolina.

"Making it seemed as if it was directed AT THEM?"  I'm supposed to believe that a speech given by Heston, played over scenes of mourners at Columbine was actually edited with the deceitful motive of making me think that he directed that statement at them?  Who the smurf would actually even consider that?

Such dissection of a DOCUMENTARY (99% of which are made to direct your attention and consideration of an issue in ONE direction) is ridiculous.  It was made to be entertaining, thought-provoking, and to MAKE MONEY.

I can't stand when people would rather cry "liar!" instead of making use of their brain for two seconds.

Using my brain for 2 seconds-
What's the difference between calling Moore a liar for this and the libs calling the admin liars for somehow implying saddam was connected to 911?
Your political views and bias?


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#38 2003-09-26 6:37 am

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Re: Everybody's favorite punching bag

I'm really glad I found this on Moore's site, because I had believed the people saying Moore lied, and it disappointed me.  Other good news is that Moore has lost a decent amount of weight recently.  The healthier he is, the better.  American needs him around.   wink

Unfortunately, he's working on a movie about Bush and the aftermath of 9/11, and I really think there's an excellent chance it's gonna get him killed.

Actually, I think that might be fortunate  twisted


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#39 2003-09-26 7:16 am

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Re: Everybody's favorite punching bag

I'm really glad I found this on Moore's site, because I had believed the people saying Moore lied, and it disappointed me.  Other good news is that Moore has lost a decent amount of weight recently.  The healthier he is, the better.  American needs him around.   wink

Unfortunately, he's working on a movie about Bush and the aftermath of 9/11, and I really think there's an excellent chance it's gonna get him killed.

Actually, I think that might be fortunate  twisted

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#40 2003-09-26 8:16 am

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Re: Everybody's favorite punching bag

I'm really glad I found this on Moore's site, because I had believed the people saying Moore lied, and it disappointed me.  Other good news is that Moore has lost a decent amount of weight recently.  The healthier he is, the better.  American needs him around.   wink

Unfortunately, he's working on a movie about Bush and the aftermath of 9/11, and I really think there's an excellent chance it's gonna get him killed.

Actually, I think that might be fortunate  twisted

Dude, you're kewl!  Will you sign my girlfriend's boobs?

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#41 2003-09-26 10:28 am

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Re: Everybody's favorite punching bag

This is from a site Jayhawk linked me to:

Moore has actually taken audio of seven sentences, from five different     parts of the speech, and a section given in a different speech entirely,     and spliced them together. Each edit is cleverly covered by inserting a     still or video footage for a few seconds.
 
First, right after the weeping victims, Moore puts on Heston's "I     have only five words for you . . . cold dead hands" statement, making     it seem directed at them. As noted above, it's actually a thank-you speech     given a year later in North Carolina.

"Making it seemed as if it was directed AT THEM?"  I'm supposed to believe that a speech given by Heston, played over scenes of mourners at Columbine was actually edited with the deceitful motive of making me think that he directed that statement at them?  Who the booboo would actually even consider that?

Such dissection of a DOCUMENTARY (99% of which are made to direct your attention and consideration of an issue in ONE direction) is ridiculous.  It was made to be entertaining, thought-provoking, and to MAKE MONEY.

I can't stand when people would rather cry "liar!" instead of making use of their brain for two seconds.

Using my brain for 2 seconds-
What's the difference between calling Moore a liar for this and the libs calling the admin liars for somehow implying saddam was connected to 911?
Your political views and bias?

I think that's a good question, and there's a good point to be made of that example. Maybe someone else will get to it before me, otherwise I'll do it tonight after work.

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#42 2003-09-26 1:20 pm

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Re: Everybody's favorite punching bag

www.bowlingfortruth.com

Moore twisted, deceived, and in some scenes, (the opening bank scene) flat-out lied. That's not what you're supposed to put in a documentary. A documentary is supposed to be a presentation of the facts, not a deceitful, lying spin of them. The Academy Awards are obsolete. Moore got the little gold statue because he told them what they wanted to hear. When utterly overrated movies like "The Hours" and "Chicago" get Oscars (or nominations), it's pretty damned obvious that good directing/writing/acting/etc. have little to do with getting the Oscar anymore. It's all about putting the right message in there to stroke the dicks of the Academy Awards board.


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#43 2003-09-26 2:06 pm

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Re: Everybody's favorite punching bag

www.bowlingfortruth.com

Moore twisted, deceived, and in some scenes, (the opening bank scene) flat-out lied. That's not what you're supposed to put in a documentary. A documentary is supposed to be a presentation of the facts, not a deceitful, lying spin of them. The Academy Awards are obsolete. Moore got the little gold statue because he told them what they wanted to hear. When utterly overrated movies like "The Hours" and "Chicago" get Oscars (or nominations), it's pretty damned obvious that good directing/writing/acting/etc. have little to do with getting the Oscar anymore. It's all about putting the right message in there to stroke the dicks of the Academy Awards board.

The above sites is one fo the better responses to BFC, but does not, in most of the cases say Moore lied.  Most of the criticism is that Moore puts a liberal spin on the event, and they want the conservative spin to be the "right" one.  Regarding the gun/bank thing, Moore stands behind what he put in the film.  He did call ahead to say that he was coming in with cameras but did the paperwork and all at the bank in a short period of time.


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#44 2003-09-26 2:57 pm

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Re: Everybody's favorite punching bag

Using my brain for 2 seconds-
What's the difference between calling Moore a liar for this and the libs calling the admin liars for somehow implying saddam was connected to 911?
Your political views and bias?

You're kidding, right?

This is a documentary that was created with an OBVIOUS slant in mind.

What a horrible comparison!


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#45 2003-09-26 2:58 pm

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Re: Everybody's favorite punching bag

Moore twisted, deceived, and in some scenes, (the opening bank scene) flat-out lied. That's not what you're supposed to put in a documentary. A documentary is supposed to be a presentation of the facts, not a deceitful, lying spin of them.

That's absolute bullsmurf.

Consider that most documentaries are an hour or so long, and come from countless DAYS AND DAYS of material.

99% of all documentaries contain slant.  Any assertion otherwise is completely naive.


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#46 2003-09-26 6:33 pm

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"One thing we've learned is there's a difference between being disappointed and having madmen in authority."

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