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#1 2003-01-08 9:29 am

the dave
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It ain't look'n the way I want !!!!! aaahhhh!!!

I gots a problem! My site www.the-dave.net looks exactly how I want it to in IE for Mac & Windows and Mozzila.  Im having BIG problems however with Netscape 4, Chimera and the newly released Safari. Please take a look and help a brotha out!
I have been told by many, just as long as it looks good in IE thats good enough...well bullsh!t! I want it o look the same or as closs as I can in everything, thats for any help!

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#2 2003-01-08 11:00 am

AdmiralSound
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Re: It ain't look'n the way I want !!!!! aaahhhh!!!

Here is the results I found:

Using Mozilla 1.2.1, it crashed when I tried to look at your Source code.  Are you using frames?

Then on my test machine, with 4.7 running in classic, the only real problem I saw was the gap between "scenes" was larger.  Considering the problems I have trying to work with layers, css, and generally XHTML 1.0 compliance, it doesn't seem like anything to worry about.

Of course some people are pretty specific on how it looks.  I would look at your table positioning.  I really think you should move to using layers (that would be div or span) instead of tables and you might have better luck.

Or not.


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#3 2003-01-08 11:19 am

the dave
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Re: It ain't look'n the way I want !!!!! aaahhhh!!!

Yeah I use frames and GoLive to lay it out.  The big probelm Im having is the spaces between the updates

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#4 2003-01-08 12:02 pm

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Re: It ain't look'n the way I want !!!!! aaahhhh!!!

I'll just say that a layer using absolute positioning would do the same thing as frames for the top element.

Also, my guess is that GoLive is putting in a lot of extra information into your table desciptions, unless you are using cool grid and showgrid by choice.  If that is true you are going to have to edit the code by hand.  Netscape 4 is not understanding this information, apparently.  Here are some resources for Netscape 4 I have found valuable:

http://www.macedition.com/cb/nn4crashers/
http://www.attrition.org/security/denia … l.dos.html
http://people.a2000.nl/kunst/nscrash/ne … crash.html
http://www.nic.fi/~tapio1/Teaching/Netscape.php3
http://www.v2studio.com/k/css/n4hide/

HTH!


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#5 2003-01-08 7:58 pm

Scott
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Re: It ain't look'n the way I want !!!!! aaahhhh!!!

I stopped supporting Netscape  4.x almost a year ago.  (when the a majority of the sites I maintained droppped below 2% usage for it.

Netscape 4.0 was released in 1997.

The last bugfix was over two years ago.

Netscape doesn't support it anymore.

Netscape 4.x is a part of computing history now.


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#6 2003-01-08 8:16 pm

the dave
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Re: It ain't look'n the way I want !!!!! aaahhhh!!!

Take a look at this
http://www.the-dave.net/safari/compare.jpg

What the hell am I doing wrong?

The only reason I mentioned Netscape was the fact that Mozzila is based on Netscape code and it looked fine.  However Chimera is base on Netscape too and it looks totaly wacked!

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#7 2003-01-09 1:41 am

Galahad
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Re: It ain't look'n the way I want !!!!! aaahhhh!!!

That jpeg suggests to me that the browsers have different default font sizes.  Specify the font size you want using pixels in CSS.

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#8 2003-01-12 12:06 am

the dave
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Re: It ain't look'n the way I want !!!!! aaahhhh!!!

ugh....this is driving me fu#%ing crazy.  I have told it to be from 0 - 250 pixels with my CSS and nothing takes in any browser.  Can any of you tell me what I am doing wrong?
Here is my CSS


body      { color: white; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 15pt; font-family: "Lucida Grande", Verdana, Arial, Helvetica }

body2 { color: red; font-family: "Lucida Grande", Verdana, Arial, Helvetica }

h1  { color: white; font-style: italic; font-weight: bold; font-size: 35px; line-height: normal; font-family: "Lucida Grande", Verdana, Arial, Helvetica }

h2    { color: white; font-style: normal; font-weight: bolder; font-size: large; line-height: 35%; font-family: "Lucida Grande", Verdana, Arial, Helvetica }

h3   { color: white; font-style: normal; font-weight: bolder; font-size: 13px; line-height: 105%; font-family: "Lucida Grande", Verdana, Arial, Helvetica }

h4  { color: white; font-style: normal; font-weight: bolder; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: "Lucida Grande", Verdana, Arial, Helvetica }

p     { color: white; line-height: normal; font-family: "Lucida Grande", Verdana, Arial, Helvetica }

td   { color: white; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Lucida Grande", Verdana, Arial, Helvetica }
a:link    { color: #0f0; font-family: "Lucida Grande", Verdana, Arial, Helvetica }

a:link1 { color: red; font-family: "Lucida Grande", Verdana, Arial, Helvetica }

a:visited { color: yellow; font-family: "Lucida Grande", Verdana, Arial, Helvetica }

Granted the most I learned about CSS was a short toutorial in amg, so I will not get pissed if you talk WAY down to me.

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#9 2003-01-12 2:16 am

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Re: It ain't look'n the way I want !!!!! aaahhhh!!!

It's your TD tag.

You have the font size set to 10pt.  Try 10px instead.


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#10 2003-01-12 10:47 am

Daniel
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Re: It ain't look'n the way I want !!!!! aaahhhh!!!

It's your TD tag.

You have the font size set to 10pt.  Try 10px instead.

He has the same problem in his body tag, also.


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#11 2003-01-12 10:49 am

Daniel
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Re: It ain't look'n the way I want !!!!! aaahhhh!!!

And just a general CSS tip that saves a bit of time:  when defining fonts like that, a lot of things can be crammed into one tag and still work just fine:

p, #content {
font: 12px Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif;
}

(as opposed to defining the size, then the family, etc)


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#12 2003-01-12 10:51 am

Daniel
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Re: It ain't look'n the way I want !!!!! aaahhhh!!!

Oh, and one other thing: I noticed that you had a body2 definition, without a #.  While IE will let you make up tags using CSS, I don't think you're supposed to do that.  It's more organized in any case to make it #body2 and then use <div id="body2"> ... </div> when you want to use it.


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#13 2003-01-13 9:36 pm

the dave
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Re: It ain't look'n the way I want !!!!! aaahhhh!!!

F^&K, F^&K, F^&K, F^&K,
What the hell is wrong with me!?! I CAN NOT get this god damned thing to work!!!!  I have done EVERYTHING people have told me to do, changed things  over to pixels and it refuses to show ANY changes.....aaahhhhh evil  evil  evil  evil  evil  evil  evil  evil  evil  evil  evil  evil  evil  evil  evil  evil  evil  evil  evil  evil  evil  evil  evil  evil  evil  evil  evil

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