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#1 2003-12-31 10:12 am

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Urgent Ram Question

OK, i just got a ram chip in for my PB 12inch 1ghz that will be here in two days. The chip is marked as PC2700, and the powerbook supports PC2100

I assume 2700 is backwords compatible with 2100....but i want to be sure...

Anybody know?


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#2 2003-12-31 10:23 am

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Re: Urgent Ram Question

On macs I don't know.
On pc's - 2700 should work, though I'm not positive. It may depend upon the board itself.

I've had problems in macs before using faster ram than was intended - I think the issue is that the mac hardware memory test doesn't always support the faster chips and thus gets false negs.

It's always best to buy the correct specified ram for your hardware. If I were you, I would send it back and get the right ram.

There might also be a ddr/non ddr issue - but I always get ram by what the manufacturer of my board states that it supports.


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#3 2003-12-31 10:30 am

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Re: Urgent Ram Question

Well, dang that memory place. I told them my computer, and they gave me this chip.

The woman on the phone said it was the right one, and so does the invoice....should i maybe keep it and see if its gonna work? Ittl be a pain to send it all the way back to cali from texas.


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#4 2003-12-31 10:59 am

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Re: Urgent Ram Question

As I mentioned in the forum, "Have Book Will Trevel", memory that worked perfect in my old 867MHz PwerBook does not work with my new 1GHz; Apple thinks it is due to the new motherboards in the 1GHz. The memory that no longer works, and that I sent back, is labelled 2700 as well.


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#5 2003-12-31 11:05 am

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Re: Urgent Ram Question

Dangit........stupid memory2go.com.......


GRRRRRR


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#6 2003-12-31 11:10 am

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Re: Urgent Ram Question

Maybe the clerk confused the "7" for the "1"   hmm  hmm


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#7 2003-12-31 11:13 am

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Re: Urgent Ram Question

I just called them and they assured me that this memory would be fully compatible with my 12inch Powerbook....and that they would fix it if not.....

So i suppose we'll just have to wait untill my dream computer comes in to try it.

But if anybody has experience with this ram in this machine, good or bad, please still post!


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#8 2003-12-31 11:52 am

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Re: Urgent Ram Question

The memory should work.  Even though it is rated faster then what your Mac supports, it should still work.  However, Apple places tight requirements for there computers.  Mainly memory.  As long as they are willing to take it back then you shouldn't worry.  If you boot your Mac with the memory, it will either not boot or not see it after boot up..  That really is the only bad thing.  And of course waiting to ship and get a new one.. 

I think it will work...  wink


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#9 2003-12-31 11:57 am

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Re: Urgent Ram Question

Ah, thanks for some good news :-D


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#10 2003-12-31 12:19 pm

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Re: Urgent Ram Question

STOP!!

Installing incorrect memory will do lasting damage to your good looks and charm!   

Don't know what it'll do to the computer though  shrug


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#11 2003-12-31 12:20 pm

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Re: Urgent Ram Question

-_-

LoL

U almost scared me for a sec there.

I'm gonna keep it around, and hope it works....then call angry when/if it doesnt.


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#12 2003-12-31 1:57 pm

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Re: Urgent Ram Question

I'm pretty sure it will work.  If it wasn't backwards compatible, I believe it would be shaped different so that it wouldn't fit in the slot.


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#13 2003-12-31 2:59 pm

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Re: Urgent Ram Question

If you buy from Crucial then you wouldn't have to worry about it. They have a memory selector feature, and they guarantee that they'll send you the right chip.


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#14 2003-12-31 4:55 pm

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Re: Urgent Ram Question

If you buy from Crucial then you wouldn't have to worry about it. They have a memory selector feature, and they guarantee that they'll send you the right chip.

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#15 2003-12-31 6:11 pm

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Re: Urgent Ram Question

So cyber, I've been following your other thread, since I am looking to add RAM to my 12". Where did you order from?

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#16 2004-01-01 7:07 am

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Re: Urgent Ram Question

RAM that is the same format should down-clock. (Never install RAM that's slower than what your motherboard supports or RAM that's of a different format. If, for example, you add a PC-66 stick to a computer with a PC-100 motherboard and 3 other sticks of PC-100, all of your RAM will downclock to PC-66 and you may have instability.)

For example, PC-2700 RAM should work just fine with a PC-2100 motherboard.

PC-133 RAM should work just fine with a PC-100 motherboard.

However, there are cases where mixing RAM of different speeds causes trouble. I installed PC 133 RAM in an old Dell and I had to take out the PC 100 stick already in it to get the machine to boot. I installed a PC 133 chip in my Mom's Indigo PC-100 iMac and it didn't work - but it works in my PC-100 G4.


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#17 2004-01-01 9:15 am

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Re: Urgent Ram Question

RAM that is the same format should down-clock. (Never install RAM that's slower than what your motherboard supports or RAM that's of a different format. If, for example, you add a PC-66 stick to a computer with a PC-100 motherboard and 3 other sticks of PC-100, all of your RAM will downclock to PC-66 and you may have instability.)

For example, PC-2700 RAM should work just fine with a PC-2100 motherboard.

PC-133 RAM should work just fine with a PC-100 motherboard.

However, there are cases where mixing RAM of different speeds causes trouble. I installed PC 133 RAM in an old Dell and I had to take out the PC 100 stick already in it to get the machine to boot. I installed a PC 133 chip in my Mom's Indigo PC-100 iMac and it didn't work - but it works in my PC-100 G4.

Therefore, we can conclude that, since the 12" PB has 128 megs of PC2100 permenantly soldered in, it would be unadvisable to install any PC2700 in the expansion slot.

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#18 2004-01-01 11:49 am

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Re: Urgent Ram Question

put the memory in. It'll work fine.

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#19 2004-01-01 11:56 am

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Re: Urgent Ram Question

So cyber, I've been following your other thread, since I am looking to add RAM to my 12". Where did you order from?

Memory To Go
(Cant remember address, but just google it)

Right now if u mention "ThinkSecret" you can get two bucks off shipping. They got it here very fast, and the memory seems to be packaged nicely and in good condition.

But we'll have to see if its gonna work.

But thats gonna be a long time now... (read my new thread in Circuit Board)


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