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#26 2004-01-07 1:19 am

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Re: M$ People Speaking @ Keynote

Ask yourself: Could you do any better?

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#27 2004-01-07 1:25 am

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Re: M$ People Speaking @ Keynote

Ask yourself: Could you do any better?

Yes.  I believe I could.

At the least, I could do it without sounding like a drunken zombie from Michigan.


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#28 2004-01-07 1:25 am

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Re: M$ People Speaking @ Keynote

Ask yourself: Could you do any better?

Even if I was as drunk as Roz Ho, yes, I could do better.


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#29 2004-01-07 1:27 am

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Roz Ho...

*giggles*


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#30 2004-01-07 3:08 am

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Re: M$ People Speaking @ Keynote

Rox Ho. which makes it even funnier.


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#31 2004-01-07 4:43 am

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Re: M$ People Speaking @ Keynote

Ask yourself: Could you do any better?

You bet. I have never had a fear of speaking to large audiences. As a matter of fact I get off on it. Heck I made a living MCing and DJing for over 10 years.
You would think MS could find someone who could give a energetic presentation. You know, like the Monkey Boy big_smile


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#32 2004-01-07 4:52 am

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Re: M$ People Speaking @ Keynote

My summary of what the MS people demonstrated:

1. Now you can have lined pages in your word processor!  WOW! That's gonna increase my productivity ten fold!

2. Now you don't have to use print preview in Excel!  Because that was such a pain in the ass, wasn't it?!?

3. I went and did something at this point, I can't remember what it was though.

4. Thanks, Apple, for innovating for us!

But that's just me...

lol

That fading thing was seriously lame.  I can't believe they would show that.  Everyone here already knows I hate the entire Office suite, and it looks like much won't change.  They always try to copy Apple that way because they don't get it.  Apple does stuff that is genuinely cool- it lokos awesome but is incredibly useful, the perfect fusion of form and function.  Expose is an excellent example of this.  I can see all those stupid executives at Microsoft sitting down with their spreadsheats and complicated analysis papers saying "they'll love this fading effect when we show them, mac people always love cool effects."  Correction: it just happens to be that Apple always makes the useful features cool, its not just looks. 

Anyone catch how lame their offer was too: "But since we're so nice, we're going to let you buy Office X today and give you 2004 free!"  Ok, that's what's normally done, mainly because people aren't stupid and will just wait until the new version.  What a bunch of smurfs i swear.

Anyways the offering were seriously WEAK.

I wonder if it will still have drawing errors.  Probably, they wouldn't focus on anything useful like that.

My favorite part was how Roz Ho would never abbreviate the name, each and every time it was "Microsoft Office 2000 and 4".  "The best part about Microsoft Office 2000 and 4 is that Microsoft Office 2000 and 4 offers..."

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#33 2004-01-07 5:47 am

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Re: M$ People Speaking @ Keynote

BOOOOOOOOOORiiiinngggg!!!

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#34 2004-01-07 7:25 am

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#35 2004-01-07 8:09 am

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I'm not sure about cocaine. I mean, I guess she could have been on coke but aren't coke-heads usually a bit more "on"? I would have (and did) assume she was on glue or maybe just plain drunk. Based on her facial expression (or lack thereof), her speech patterns - flat and zomboid, but not slurred - and generally disinterested demeanor I have to go with solvent abuse. I see a number of solvent abusers every night at work an I know what they look/sound/behave/smell like. Roz Ho fits the criteria necessary for the Thunder Bay Police to issue a public statement describing her as "a known gas sniffer".


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#36 2004-01-07 8:13 am

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- flat and zomboid, but not slurred -

Anyone know if MS is working on cybernetcs?


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#37 2004-01-07 8:20 am

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All joking aside, she says a few words that come across with a heavy country bumpkin accent. I think she was speaking slowly and at a strange pace to keep herself from talking in that accent. Also, she keeps her top lip over her teeth while speaking - something people usually do when embarrassed by their own voice.


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#38 2004-01-07 8:32 am

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Re: M$ People Speaking @ Keynote

All joking aside, she says a few words that come across with a heavy country bumpkin accent. I think she was speaking slowly and at a strange pace to keep herself from talking in that accent. Also, she keeps her top lip over her teeth while speaking - something people usually do when embarrassed by their own voice.

Maybe. But you have to admit, a solvent abuser in charge of MacBU would explain a lot.


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#39 2004-01-07 8:37 am

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Maybe. But you have to admit, a solvent abuser in charge of MacBU would explain a lot.

If I worked there, I'd probably be more incliined to put the letter opener up my nose than sniffing the white out.


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#40 2004-01-07 9:26 am

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Maybe. But you have to admit, a solvent abuser in charge of MacBU would explain a lot.

If I worked there, I'd probably be more incliined to put the letter opener up my nose than sniffing the white out.

Maybe. But an auto-lobotomy doesn't get you 3 months paid sick leave at the Betty Ford Clinic every year. big_smile


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#41 2004-01-07 11:30 am

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Re: M$ People Speaking @ Keynote

Roz Ho......

frightening.

I won't be visiting her beeewth.


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#42 2004-01-07 12:49 pm

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Re: M$ People Speaking @ Keynote

Roz Ho......

frightening.

I won't be visiting her beeewth.

But don't you want to see the MacBU in their natural habitat?


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#43 2004-01-07 12:55 pm

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A house of mirrors constantly filled with smoke?


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#44 2004-01-07 12:59 pm

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A house of mirrors constantly filled with smoke?

I was imagining more like the offices in Brazil (the movie)


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#45 2004-01-07 1:11 pm

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No one here hates, loathes, despises, abhors, detests and deplores Microsoft more than I, but I have to say I think people here are being just a bit mean. Roz Ho and co. are minions of Evil, sure, but that doesn't  mean they themselves are bad people. They don't deserve to be attacked for their voices. If they were trying to be professional singers or actors or something like that it'd be different, but nothing they were doing invites this kind of criticism of their voices (and honestly, the vocal delivery wasn't that bad). Roz appeared to be speaking very deliberately, as though compensating for an accent or something, which is perfectly fine. She was a bit stiff, to be sure, but it's probably difficult for some people to deal with speaking live in front of thousands of strangers, and it's presumably not normally part of her job. When I rewatch the keynote via the streaming archive I'll skip past the MS presentation just because office software is inherently unsexy and boring, but I don't think we need to go out of our way to be mean to the presenters just for the way they talk (we can just be mean to them for working for Microsoft, which is enough).


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#46 2004-01-07 1:17 pm

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Re: M$ People Speaking @ Keynote

I can tell you what would have made the Office demo sexy...no not that you sicko...if they would have said they did a complete rewrite of Office so that it doesn't have any of those annoying bugs any more. I would have been okay if it was lacking a few features as long as they started from scratch.


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#47 2004-01-07 1:42 pm

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Re: M$ People Speaking @ Keynote

No one here hates, loathes, despises, abhors, detests and deplores Microsoft more than I, but I have to say I think people here are being just a bit mean. Roz Ho and co. are minions of Evil, sure, but that doesn't  mean they themselves are bad people. They don't deserve to be attacked for their voices. If they were trying to be professional singers or actors or something like that it'd be different, but nothing they were doing invites this kind of criticism of their voices (and honestly, the vocal delivery wasn't that bad). Roz appeared to be speaking very deliberately, as though compensating for an accent or something, which is perfectly fine. She was a bit stiff, to be sure, but it's probably difficult for some people to deal with speaking live in front of thousands of strangers, and it's presumably not normally part of her job. When I rewatch the keynote via the streaming archive I'll skip past the MS presentation just because office software is inherently unsexy and boring, but I don't think we need to go out of our way to be mean to the presenters just for the way they talk (we can just be mean to them for working for Microsoft, which is enough).

If MS cared about selling their product, they would've picked people that are good at presenting products.  These people sucked at speaking publicly, but it didn't help that the software they were demonstrating lacked any substantial new features.  But I agree, it's not fair to criticize people's accents or voices.  Hell I have a stupid Pittburgh accent, so I can almost relate.  But Microsoft sent the wrong two people to do that presentation.

But hey, I doubt they'll ever read this, and they're both making much more than I probably will.  If a MS employee can't handle a little criticism from an Apple message board, then they're more pathetic than I thought.

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#48 2004-01-07 2:43 pm

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Re: M$ People Speaking @ Keynote

Ask yourself: Could you do any better?

You bet. I have never had a fear of speaking to large audiences. As a matter of fact I get off on it. Heck I made a living MCing and DJing for over 10 years.
You would think MS could find someone who could give a energetic presentation. You know, like the Monkey Boy big_smile

Large audience including the 6million+ who were watching on the internet! That's a large audience!

And, this isn't you going up and DJing tunes you like, its talking about office, in front of MS hating Office hating Mac fans.

I agree it was smurf, the new Office is nothing but more bloated and it should not have had any place on the stage. But, that's not Roz and her mates' fault, I'm sure they were acutely aware that this was smurf and they were going to be hated for it, hence the nerves.


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#49 2004-01-07 4:38 pm

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Roz!

Roz!

Roz!

HO!!!!!!

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#50 2004-01-07 10:42 pm

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Oh, come on... it wasn't THAT bad.   blush

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