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#201 2004-01-15 9:02 am
- Rozzlapeed
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Re: There Is No God.
Actually there is a God... I spoke to him this morning about Howard Dean... he told me not to worry...
Camp David
You're taking My Words out of context. When I called you this morning, I specifically said, "Howard Dean will be a great president. Don't you worry about Bush. He's as good as smote."
-Rozzlapeed, A.K.A. "YHWH"
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#202 2004-01-15 2:07 pm
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Re: There Is No God.
"my own mind is my own church..."
-thomas paine
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#203 2004-01-15 2:09 pm
#204 2004-01-15 2:15 pm
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Re: There Is No God.
"my own mind is my own church..."
-thomas painethats nice and has litterally nothing to do with the topic except for it mentions church.
ditto
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#205 2004-01-15 3:07 pm
- Jaligard
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Re: There Is No God.
This thread is still going? Damn.
THERE IS A GOD ~ ANN COULTER SAYS SO! And anything that could create a creature so beautiful as Ann Coulter must indeed be a God!
God bless Ann Coulter!
Camp DavidYou had presented your defense so eloquently in the first several pages. Is this the same Camp David? I am forced to ask myself, what happened to the intelligence of pages 1 and 2? If Jaligard said "THERE CAN'T BE A GOD ~ STEVEN HAWKING SAYS SO!", you would be all over him.
As thrica points out, this statement is fallacious. It's an appeal to authority. Problem being that Ann Coulter is not an authority on the existence of any gods. (Nor would Stephen Hawking be one, though appealing to him on the nature of black holes would not be a fallacy as he is an authority in that regard.)
The second claim, that "anything that could create a creature so beautiful as Ann Coulter must indeed be a [g]od" is also fallacious: it begs the question. To accept the conclusion that a god exists because only a god could have created a creature as beautiful as Ann Coulter you must first accept that she was created by a god in the first place. The conclusion is simply the first [unstated] premise.
George Bush: "If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator."
George Bush: "One of the hardest parts of my job is to try to connect Iraq to the war on terror."
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#206 2004-01-15 11:14 pm
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Re: There Is No God.
This thread is still going? Damn.
THERE IS A GOD ~ ANN COULTER SAYS SO! And anything that could create a creature so beautiful as Ann Coulter must indeed be a God!
God bless Ann Coulter!
Camp DavidYou had presented your defense so eloquently in the first several pages. Is this the same Camp David? I am forced to ask myself, what happened to the intelligence of pages 1 and 2? If Jaligard said "THERE CAN'T BE A GOD ~ STEVEN HAWKING SAYS SO!", you would be all over him.
As thrica points out, this statement is fallacious. It's an appeal to authority. Problem being that Ann Coulter is not an authority on the existence of any gods. (Nor would Stephen Hawking be one, though appealing to him on the nature of black holes would not be a fallacy as he is an authority in that regard.)
The second claim, that "anything that could create a creature so beautiful as Ann Coulter must indeed be a [g]od" is also fallacious: it begs the question. To accept the conclusion that a god exists because only a god could have created a creature as beautiful as Ann Coulter you must first accept that she was created by a god in the first place. The conclusion is simply the first [unstated] premise.
of course the argument is circular. who can be an expert on the unknowable?
expertise is not relevant for it is called faith. i agree that, of course, it is not proof - for there can be none if god "is".
it's the same as the pragmatics argument about the the watch and the watchmaker. or as the masons dubbed him, the great architect. it's fallacy, in my opinion, is the conceit of man... concluding only something as wonderous as "god" can explain all existence - and especially the existence of the allmighty mankind.
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