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dinerfan · 2004-01-15 11:03 pm

i, for one, am proud to be part of People Eating Tasty Animals

Oh, that rules! Count me in, especially if the critter in question is a chicken!

dinerfan · 2004-01-15 11:14 pm

I love KFC...it's almost as good as Popeye's.
Now now... lets not blaspheme. Popeye's is the greatest fried chicken EVAR.

As far as a chain joint goes, I'd much rather go to Popeye's than KFC (haven't been there in 5 years, probably).

For straight fried chicken, though, the best I've ever had is at a little place called Mississippi Fried Chicken in Waynesboro, Miss. (AKA nowhere fastville). Both times we went there, MFC was hopping out of sight and the KFC a block away was dead in the water! How many times does that happen?

Best fried chicken on the planet is available only at Prince's Spicy Hot Chicken Shack in Nashville, 123 Ewing Street. Accept no substitutes. (The smurf's so good I moved here so I could keep eating it, sick sick sick!)

benightedbastard · 2004-01-15 11:31 pm

This is one of those things I have difficulty deciding whether it's funny or just lame. I usually lean to lame. I like the sponsor a vegetarian site, though.

There is a PETA billboard in Knoxville, Tennessee that has a man with breasts! PETA claims that meat causes tissue in the man's breast to become like women's breasts! Have you ever heard anything like that before??!!

It is purportedly due to the presence of hormones in the slaughtered chicken. I can't vouch for the US, but here no chicken can be sold with hormones present in the meat.

Chickens are, more or less, dumber then smurf.

And that, ladies and gents, is the technical term.

LennonWasRight · 2004-12-04 9:45 pm

Chickens, as well as all meat, here can be sold with hormones, steroids, and dangerously high levels of antibiotics. All of the chickens from chain places have all three in them. You have to buy organic free range chickens not to get all three injected into them. Yes, sorry to disappoint you, but they do cause your breast to grow, not that much though, the poster was probably misleading. The steroids and hormones also cause an increase in the early development of children, for example entering puberty earlier.

By the way I'm a vegan, no meat or dairy. I'm a member of PETA. Most of all PETA will win this one. They already beat McDonalds and Buger King on the same issue.

They are fighting for a reasonable treatment of chickens. Frankly if anyone walked in a factory farm slaughterhouse you wouldn't eat at KFC anymore. The chickens are all white from not seeing the sun and growth hormones. If they were freed from their overcrowded cages they couldn't walk. Their wings and legs grow at such a rapid rate it outgrows their bodies and they aren't even able to stand. They are injected with antibiotics to prevent the inevitable disease from overcrowded and unsanitary conditions. They are stacked in wire cages, sometimes up to 20 cages high, with the ones on the bottom being hit by waste from above, only later to be cleaned by boiling water. They are de-beaked with a searing hot blade and sometimes boiled alive when the machines don't kill them. It is a truly horrific nightmare to walk into a modern slaughterhouse, these are not old farmers raising these chickens. All slaughterhouses refuse to let any cameras in at any time, ever wonder why?

Personally I wish you wouldn't eat meat, and this is just one of many reasons why, but at least don't support these kind of places.

By the way Tobacco companies are terrorists, they killed my father and both grandfathers. They've killed millions of people, more than Hitler, and they lied for 50 years about their products to make money. Yet they are sitting at State Dinners with the President of the United States. Sometimes PETA members have committed crimes, but these are never committed by or condoned by PETA. Timothy McViegh was a Republican, doesn't make the Republican Party a terrorist organization....... or does it? wink

iBubba · 2004-12-04 10:37 pm

The steroids and hormones also cause an increase in the early development of children, for example entering puberty earlier.

So that's why I was bangin' my babysitter when I was in the sixth grade! Thanks KFC and McD's for the early start! w00w00t!

By the way I'm a vegan, no meat or dairy.

Good for you. I am a carnivore... well, actually an omnivore, since I do eat a few veggies every once and awhile. Mostly meat. Rare. Juicy. Fresh or processed - no matter to me.

Oh chickens! The humanity of it all!

smurf the chickens. smurf the pigs. smurf the cows. smurf the pigs. smurf you and PETA and your completely skewed perspecitive. Why not take up a cause, like fighting for better education for US kids, ending starvation of US citizens, eliminating honelessness with the US, world peace, etc., etc.?

Personally I wish you wouldn't eat meat, and this is just one of many reasons why, but at least don't support these kind of places.

Personally, I wish you and yours would spend more time trying to improve the lot of mankind.

By the way Tobacco companies are terrorists, they killed my father and both grandfathers. They've killed millions of people, more than Hitler, and they lied for 50 years about their products to make money. Yet they are sitting at State Dinners with the President of the United States. Sometimes PETA members have committed crimes, but these are never committed by or condoned by PETA. Timothy McViegh was a Republican, doesn't make the Republican Party a terrorist organization....... or does it?

No the Repubs are not terrorists. They're thought police, in the sense that they're on a massive propoganda assault on the US population.

Kind of reminds me of a certain "Animals' Rights" organization we seem to be discussing in this thread.

<sparks up a Camel Light>

dinerfan · 2004-12-04 11:06 pm

No the Repubs are not terrorists. They're thought police, in the sense that they're on a massive propoganda assault on the US population.

Seeing that Republicans and Democrats are two sides of the same coin, I'd say you've bought into their propaganda quite well.

And I'll reiterate: chickens are damned tasty critters, as are pigs.

akb825 · 2004-12-04 11:18 pm

LennonWasRight: Humans were meant to eat meat: just look at our digestion system and teeth. I don't care if you're a vegan, and you shouldn't care if I eat meat.

BTW, I fully attribute this thread (after reading it so long ago) to owning my PETA (People for the Eating of Tasty Animals) T-Shirt. big_smile

iBubba · 2004-12-04 11:36 pm

Seeing that Republicans and Democrats are two sides of the same coin, I'd say you've bought into their propaganda quite well.

Actually, I didn't buy into anything. If you knew me a bit better, you would have known where I stand on "the big two."

wink

Pro_ · 2004-12-05 1:35 am

im a member of PeTA

(People for the eating of Tasty Animals)

benightedbastard · 2004-12-05 2:15 am

Chickens, as well as all meat, here can be sold with hormones, steroids, and dangerously high levels of antibiotics.

Not here ::points to location::

ABigSmall · 2004-12-05 2:24 am

LennonWasRight: Humans were meant to eat meat: just look at our digestion system and teeth. I don't care if you're a vegan, and you shouldn't care if I eat meat.

What about my teeth and digestion system?

baldprof · 2004-12-05 8:19 am

I have become a "partial vegetarian". Because I have both a high cholesterol and a type II diabetes problem, a major change in diet became necessary.

While I will still eat some meat, I try to purchase "organically grown" non-factory farm produced products.
I have also resorted to learning how to cook rather than relying on fast foods or convenience foods. I takes more time but it is worth it to me. Have you ever read the labels on some of those convenience food products? In addition to what may have been put into the stuff on the factory farms, a fair amount of chemicals are added in the processing.

Has it worked for me? Well my glucose is now usually around 105, my LDL level is considered only slighty elevated, and my weight is even starting to decrease, although very slowly.

I think the PETA should emphasize more about how humanely treated animals will be healthier to consume for those who chose to be non-vegetarians.

LennonWasRight · 2004-12-05 10:53 am

Wow, such a visceral reaction to a person who simply doesn't eat the same foods that you do. Hmm, maybe some residual guilt?

Like I said "personally I wish you didn't eat meat", but that's your right. I only wish you would consider others, including animals, in your life. PETA has a bad reputation from constant media attacks, including some hilarious bits by FOX News. Maybe some of you independent thinkers have been influenced by some of this, not that you'd ever admit it. PETA does fight for animal rights. They want better treatment for the chickens that KFC and others kill for food. I'm not going to lie and say PETA and myself wish the world wouldn't eat meat. The main word there is wish. What I am concerned about is the enormous amount of environmental damage caused by factory farms. I'm concerned about the harm caused by the overuse of antibiotics in the factory farms leading to the rise of super-resistant germs. I'm concerned about the effects of steroids and growth hormones in the animals we eat, you don't really think they disappear after you kill the animal? I'm concerned about about the use of our dwindling fresh water supply that is rapidly being used on factory animal farms. I'm concerned about the destruction of natural lands including the rainforest. I'm concerned that so many people are not concerned about these things.

Flame away if you must, then put your head back in the sand and pretend that nothing is wrong.

By the way, yes we ate meat for many generations and our teeth show that. We also lived in trees and have natural fear of heights. We lived in dominant male based small groups and still carry on many of the resulting cultural problems. We also lived in caves, had slaves and fought wars that killed millions of people, most of them innocent. History is often not something we want to live up to.

iBubba · 2004-12-05 11:17 am

Wow, such a visceral reaction to a person who simply doesn't eat the same foods that you do. Hmm, maybe some residual guilt?...

Flame away if you must, then put your head back in the sand and pretend that nothing is wrong.

No, it was a visceral reation from someone who thinks PETA and it's horde have their prioirities - and "education" methodologies - completely out of whack.

I am fully aware of the "horrors" makind inflicts on the biological masses we use for food. That's not my point. If you didn't catch my point, then I guess there isn't much more to be said.

<fires up the skillet for some eggs ad bacon>

LennonWasRight · 2004-12-05 3:30 pm

Wow, such a visceral reaction to a person who simply doesn't eat the same foods that you do. Hmm, maybe some residual guilt?...

Flame away if you must, then put your head back in the sand and pretend that nothing is wrong.
No, it was a visceral reation from someone who thinks PETA and it's horde have their prioirities - and "education" methodologies - completely out of whack.

I am fully aware of the "horrors" makind inflicts on the biological masses we use for food. That's not my point. If you didn't catch my point, then I guess there isn't much more to be said.

<fires up the skillet for some eggs ad bacon>

Your point being you know that the factory farms are destroying the planet and your health, but that you'd rather ignore all of that for the chance to make snippy comments on a forum board?

At least admit you don't care or more likely don't have the guts to care.

wellfleation · 2004-12-05 5:33 pm

Most of PeTAs claims are bullsmurf.

Like the milking of cows, for example.

They had a campaign where they attempted to discourage teens, etc., from drinking milk because it makes you fart more. neutral They are wacked!

akb825 · 2004-12-05 6:35 pm

Wow, such a visceral reaction to a person who simply doesn't eat the same foods that you do. Hmm, maybe some residual guilt?...

Flame away if you must, then put your head back in the sand and pretend that nothing is wrong.
No, it was a visceral reation from someone who thinks PETA and it's horde have their prioirities - and "education" methodologies - completely out of whack.

I am fully aware of the "horrors" makind inflicts on the biological masses we use for food. That's not my point. If you didn't catch my point, then I guess there isn't much more to be said.

<fires up the skillet for some eggs ad bacon>
Your point being you know that the factory farms are destroying the planet and your health, but that you'd rather ignore all of that for the chance to make snippy comments on a forum board?

At least admit you don't care or more likely don't have the guts to care.

If that's what you truly are against, then why don't you wish that they would clean up the "animal factories" instead of keeping people from eating meat? Besides, do you have any idea what eating solely plants would do to the environment? People would have to eat more, since there is less substance to the plant, and it would require a lot more room.

LennonWasRight · 2004-12-05 6:47 pm

Wow, such a visceral reaction to a person who simply doesn't eat the same foods that you do. Hmm, maybe some residual guilt?...

Flame away if you must, then put your head back in the sand and pretend that nothing is wrong.
No, it was a visceral reation from someone who thinks PETA and it's horde have their prioirities - and "education" methodologies - completely out of whack.

I am fully aware of the "horrors" makind inflicts on the biological masses we use for food. That's not my point. If you didn't catch my point, then I guess there isn't much more to be said.

<fires up the skillet for some eggs ad bacon>
Your point being you know that the factory farms are destroying the planet and your health, but that you'd rather ignore all of that for the chance to make snippy comments on a forum board?

At least admit you don't care or more likely don't have the guts to care.
If that's what you truly are against, then why don't you wish that they would clean up the "animal factories" instead of keeping people from eating meat? Besides, do you have any idea what eating solely plants would do to the environment? People would have to eat more, since there is less substance to the plant, and it would require a lot more room.

Eating only plants would take up a lot less room actually. You have to raise the plants for the cows/chickens/pigs to eat remember? It is a terribly inefficient way to feed the world. You need up to 10 times the land for cows compared to a vegetable diet, not to mention a lot less water use.

PETA's campaign is aimed at cleaning up the factory farms, returning to real farmers raising organic animals. No more steroids, antibiotics, growth hormones, and consequently no more asian bird flu or mad cow disease. All result from cramped factory farming practices.

akb825 · 2004-12-05 7:52 pm

Wow, such a visceral reaction to a person who simply doesn't eat the same foods that you do. Hmm, maybe some residual guilt?...

Flame away if you must, then put your head back in the sand and pretend that nothing is wrong.
No, it was a visceral reation from someone who thinks PETA and it's horde have their prioirities - and "education" methodologies - completely out of whack.

I am fully aware of the "horrors" makind inflicts on the biological masses we use for food. That's not my point. If you didn't catch my point, then I guess there isn't much more to be said.

<fires up the skillet for some eggs ad bacon>
Your point being you know that the factory farms are destroying the planet and your health, but that you'd rather ignore all of that for the chance to make snippy comments on a forum board?

At least admit you don't care or more likely don't have the guts to care.
If that's what you truly are against, then why don't you wish that they would clean up the "animal factories" instead of keeping people from eating meat? Besides, do you have any idea what eating solely plants would do to the environment? People would have to eat more, since there is less substance to the plant, and it would require a lot more room.
Eating only plants would take up a lot less room actually. You have to raise the plants for the cows/chickens/pigs to eat remember? It is a terribly inefficient way to feed the world. You need up to 10 times the land for cows compared to a vegetable diet, not to mention a lot less water use.

PETA's campaign is aimed at cleaning up the factory farms, returning to real farmers raising organic animals. No more steroids, antibiotics, growth hormones, and consequently no more asian bird flu or mad cow disease. All result from cramped factory farming practices.

Except they most likely get fed what the people don't want to eat, ground up into a pulp. Quite frankly, it takes a lot less meat to fill somebody up then vegetables, so we'd need 2-3 times what people need now.

However, no matter who's right about the space issue, one fact still remains: to be vagan, you have to be careful what to eat in order to have a balanced diet, such as getting complete proteins. A lot of people don't want to mess with that/wouldn't think about that if they were forced to not eat meat. Though where we live, our living conditions, etc. have changed over the eons, our basic nutritional needs have not.

iBubba · 2004-12-06 9:57 am

At least admit you don't care or more likely don't have the guts to care.

Right. You don't know me, nor are you aware of what organizations I belong to or support. In other words, you're speaking out your ass. I do the things I do for my fellow man - both through community volunteer work and donations to Human rights organizations.

I, on the other hand, know what organization you are a member of. Go hug a goat, throw "blood" on snotty rich folk wearing fur coats, hand out grotesque pamphlets to children...go hug a goat, I don't care.. I'd rather spend my time improving the lot of humankind.

LennonWasRight · 2004-12-07 8:40 pm

At least admit you don't care or more likely don't have the guts to care.
Right. You don't know me, nor are you aware of what organizations I belong to or support. In other words, you're speaking out your ass. I do the things I do for my fellow man - both through community volunteer work and donations to Human rights organizations.

I, on the other hand, know what organization you are a member of. Go hug a goat, throw "blood" on snotty rich folk wearing fur coats, hand out grotesque pamphlets to children...go hug a goat, I don't care.. I'd rather spend my time improving the lot of humankind.

Ohh take that! You got me! Please tell me where it states that if you belong to PETA or believe in animal rights you don't care about human rights. I do fight for human right too. I've worked countless hours helping people as well as belong to human rights organizations. I believe that one important way we can improve the life of people on this planet is to improve the way we treat our animals.

We are destroying our rivers with animal waste and blood. The Mississippi River is completely destroyed because of all the pig and chicken farms along its banks. We are destroying the rainforest in Brazil for cheap grazing land so you can have a slightly cheaper hamburger at McDonalds. Frankly animal rights and human rights are intertwined, it's the same planet that we live on.

Realize all of your actions have consequences. It's far too late to pretend that one persons actions don't hurt. There are over 250 million Americans who think that way and that's what we have to change. By the way vegetarians live 7 years longer than meat eaters, and that is from government statistics (not very likely to be pro vegetarian).

thunderqube · 2004-12-07 9:09 pm

We are destroying our rivers with animal waste and blood. The Mississippi River is completely destroyed because of all the pig and chicken farms along its banks. We are destroying the rainforest in Brazil for cheap grazing land so you can have a slightly cheaper hamburger at McDonalds. Frankly animal rights and human rights are intertwined, it's the same planet that we live on.

Umm...that's a bit of a stretch. I don't know how we went from PETA to the destruction of the rainforest.

Lennon. I seriously suggest that you stop arguing like that; argument gaps like that give you an image of an aging hippie who has no idea what he is talking about.

Freezer mac · 2004-12-08 12:07 am

We are destroying our rivers with animal waste and blood. The Mississippi River is completely destroyed because of all the pig and chicken farms along its banks. We are destroying the rainforest in Brazil for cheap grazing land so you can have a slightly cheaper hamburger at McDonalds. Frankly animal rights and human rights are intertwined, it's the same planet that we live on.
Umm...that's a bit of a stretch. I don't know how we went from PETA to the destruction of the rainforest.

Lennon. I seriously suggest that you stop arguing like that; argument gaps like that give you an image of an aging hippie who has no idea what he is talking about.

no, actually, its you who doesn't know what they are talking about... although i eat meat, eggs, dairy, etc... i only eat organic/free range food. i'm assuming you dont know that thousands of acres of rainforest were burned using the "slash and burn" method so that farmers could feed their cattle on the grains grown in slash and burned areas. for more information, check here

everlong554 · 2004-12-08 1:16 am

I don't mind giving up chicken as food, but is ok if we still kill chickens just because they're chickens?

How about instead of eating them we just hunt them for sport?

Freezer mac · 2004-12-08 1:49 am

btw... notice the expressions on the chickens as they are debeaked in this clip from BARAKA... the debeaking occurs around 1:30.. notice the red hot metal that is pressed into their beaks until it burns off... notice the smoke that comes from the debeaking...

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