Quantcast

Forums | MacLife

You are not logged in.

#1 2004-12-13 11:56 pm

ironhawk
Shai Dorsai!
From: San Francisco
Registered: 2001-10-16
Posts: 3080

The NEW Tool Thread

As per a request, here is a new thread on tools for modding your machine.

The most basic toolset I would recommend is the Sear's Craftsman Micro-Tech Precision screwdriver set, which comes with 12 drivers, including those needed for working on various models of the Apple PowerBook. It contains several flat, phillips, and torx drivers.

Linky
An excellent buy for $20

Other tools of the trade are a soldering iron with a grounded tip, for the obvious, as well as a rear windshield defroster repair kit or conductivity pen, for simpler tasks where it would be safer to use than a soldering iron.
I purchased mine for around $15, but I recommend investing a little more, and will soon be taking my own advice big_smile

Your typical soldering iron can be found at a hardware store or Radio Shack.

In addition, a Dremel is also awfully handy.

Here's some info from another thread, for the household-hardware knowledge-impaired tongue

...a Dremel is a rotary tool, used for cutting, sanding, polishing and engraving.

It is similar to a drill, both in mechanics and setup.
By setup, I mean it has bits you can change out, and there are hundreds to choose from, depending on use ( sanding bits, cutting stones, etc ).

I used a cordless Dremel to cut a section out of my G4's heatsink, where I attached a fan.

It's incredibly versatile  smile

There are a few package options for the Dremel, at different prices.

One final tool I would recommend is a Radio Shack device called the Digital Multimeter. It is useful for testing for conductivity in various surface mount components and resistor series. It folds, closing on itself, hiding the leads inside.

More Info
The one in the photo comes in a grey case. Mine is yellow, so if you visit Radio Shack in search of one, it may not be exactly what you saw online.
Again, it's a worthwhile purchase, for around $20.

You can probably find all of the above at your nearest shopping mall.


All posts on the internet are postfixed by an invisible "IMHO". It's not in the html code, either.
-titok16

Offline

 

#2 2004-12-16 8:32 pm

ironhawk
Shai Dorsai!
From: San Francisco
Registered: 2001-10-16
Posts: 3080

Re: The NEW Tool Thread

Uhh, does anyone have anything they'd like to add?

It would benefit other hackers to grow this a bit...


All posts on the internet are postfixed by an invisible "IMHO". It's not in the html code, either.
-titok16

Offline

 

#3 2004-12-16 8:56 pm

Og
Member
From: Ha!
Registered: 2002-01-18
Posts: 5133

Re: The NEW Tool Thread

grounding strap.  must-have.

goggles

condom

filter mask

rubber gloves

wait... blush


please don't come back to 54
tito

Offline

 

#4 2004-12-16 9:14 pm

Steyr AUG
Agent Orange
From: 'Nam
Registered: 2001-08-24
Posts: 27530
Website

Re: The NEW Tool Thread


filter mask

Insanly important, especially when using the dremel.


Just like back in Saigon! Eh, slick?

Offline

 

#5 2004-12-17 12:54 am

reh
shroom goon
Registered: 2002-04-19
Posts: 2311
Website

Re: The NEW Tool Thread

I've got a craftsman telescopic mirror in my kit that's pretty handy.

Do you usually use magnetic screwdrivers? I bought a craftsman magnetic nutdriver/screwdriver type thing (with lots of bits). It's really handy for those screws hiding way in the back, but I'm concerned about the magnetism around hard drives and stuff... Should I be worried?

Offline

 

#6 2004-12-17 8:42 am

Og
Member
From: Ha!
Registered: 2002-01-18
Posts: 5133

Re: The NEW Tool Thread

mmm...

okay, fine files.  not coarse.  200-grit sandpaper or better.  perhaps garnet, as it cuts and smooths better. Those last two for polishing after deburring.

soldering iron.  I use Antex, as it's faboo for getting into small spaces and heats quickly.  Highly manageable and maneuverable. Lots of tips available. I think I posted that circa 2 weeks BC (Before Crash)


please don't come back to 54
tito

Offline

 

#7 2004-12-17 8:46 am

Og
Member
From: Ha!
Registered: 2002-01-18
Posts: 5133

Re: The NEW Tool Thread

I've got a craftsman telescopic mirror in my kit that's pretty handy.

Do you usually use magnetic screwdrivers? I bought a craftsman magnetic nutdriver/screwdriver type thing (with lots of bits). It's really handy for those screws hiding way in the back, but I'm concerned about the magnetism around hard drives and stuff... Should I be worried?

if you need something magnetic to pick up the occasional stray screw (and we've all been there), use a screwdriver. Something probably weaker than a magnetic nut driver.

Better yet, use a non-magetized screwdriver and give it a light magnetic field when you need to.


please don't come back to 54
tito

Offline

 

#8 2004-12-17 8:53 pm

ironhawk
Shai Dorsai!
From: San Francisco
Registered: 2001-10-16
Posts: 3080

Re: The NEW Tool Thread

I've got a craftsman telescopic mirror in my kit that's pretty handy.

Do you usually use magnetic screwdrivers? I bought a craftsman magnetic nutdriver/screwdriver type thing (with lots of bits). It's really handy for those screws hiding way in the back, but I'm concerned about the magnetism around hard drives and stuff... Should I be worried?

Typically, the magnetic strength of tools isn't strong enough to worry about damage to computer hardware.
I don't know how stronmg your particular kit is, tho.
My aforementioned Craftsman set ( made for electronics and computers ) is only slightly magnetic.

So long as you don't go rubbing it on any chips, you're probably okay.


All posts on the internet are postfixed by an invisible "IMHO". It's not in the html code, either.
-titok16

Offline

 

#9 2004-12-17 9:08 pm

zakatak
Member
From: Kalamazoo
Registered: 2004-08-05
Posts: 565

Re: The NEW Tool Thread

I have something like this and have found it nice. A pill sorter is nice for little screws and stuff. The yellow thing in the middle is good for picking up screws in hard to reach places without a magnet of any form... you push on the end and these three little claws come out and retract so you can pick up a screw...

it's cool...

as a rule magnetic tools are a non good idea... perhaps not so much for fear of Hard Drive failures, but perhaps some of those other random little thingys on the motherbooard that a magnetic tool might get too close to... or perhaps this is an urban myth... either way my tools are free from as much magnetism as I can have them be.

Offline

 

#10 2004-12-27 8:09 pm

Mac_Addict58
Member
From: East Coast USA
Registered: 2003-02-17
Posts: 245
Website

Re: The NEW Tool Thread

Bah, forget all the percision stuff,

     The essentials,

     Milwauukee Cordless Sawzall, (this thing will cut the body of a car)
     Dewalt 18volt XRP Cordless Drill,
     Esab Mig Welding outfit.
     
     O wait, thats what I use for trashing crappy Dells etc...

    twisted twisted twisted twisted twisted twisted

     Here is some serious stuff,
 
     Set of percision files,
          great for making parts fit, that might
          have a 1mm difference.  Good for case modding etc...
   
      Anti Static wrist straps etc... Must Have (NO FRIGGIN EXCUSES)
 
      Good ol' soddering Iron, or a butane one which heats up instantly.
              15 watt iron is best for real percision sodering,
              30 watts, is good for all arround work
              40 watts, is best for real heavy soddering, such large gauge           
              wires, and metal parts etc...  Butane irons, heat up instanty
              and put out as much heat as a 30-40 wat iron
       
       Desoddering iron
 
       Soddering Tools,  I boug a set at radio shack for 5 bucks
       It came with sevral tools for holding wires while sodering,     
       and a mettal brush for cleaning soder jobs and a stand for
       my iron.
   
       Complete set of good, non magnitized percession screwdrivers,
            20 bucks at radio shack
     
            Make sure it has t7 (torx 7) and above screwdrivers, these are     
            needed to open powerbooks etc...

        A dremmel is allwayse a good tool twisted
 
        Hot glue gun, can be used instead of sodder, especialy in an
        emergency, or if soder is to hot.  Not reccomended unless
        you are sure if you want to use it.

        DepthGauges, Calpiers, Percission Mesuring devices,
        you will find uses for them, especialy for case modding etc...

        Various thin pecies of plastic, etc... good for prying stuff apart.
   
        and perhaps the most esential thing,  the will to void your
        warrenty, piss off apple, and possibly put a 3000 dollar mac
        in the dumpster


[MA]PBG4-Ghost Recon Division     
   Disclamer- Not responcible for anything typed after 12:00 in the morning.
        Yeah my spelling sometimes really does suck.

Offline

 

#11 2005-02-12 11:48 pm

Freezer mac
iPod scroll wheel
From: next to a big cold lake.
Registered: 2001-01-06
Posts: 7370

Re: The NEW Tool Thread

Og wrote:

I've got a craftsman telescopic mirror in my kit that's pretty handy.

Do you usually use magnetic screwdrivers? I bought a craftsman magnetic nutdriver/screwdriver type thing (with lots of bits). It's really handy for those screws hiding way in the back, but I'm concerned about the magnetism around hard drives and stuff... Should I be worried?

if you need something magnetic to pick up the occasional stray screw (and we've all been there), use a screwdriver. Something probably weaker than a magnetic nut driver.

Better yet, use a non-magetized screwdriver and give it a light magnetic field when you need to.

best idea yet... buy a tool magnetizer/demagnetizer... i got one with a multibit screwdriver... its great to be able to use the same screwdriver bit for both magnetic and non magnetic tasks... just don't get one of the ones with two holes punched in it, as they don't demagnetize very well. the ones with 1 hole that are not encased in plastic work better.

Offline

 

#12 2005-02-13 1:18 am

NightCougar_37
For Gallia!!
From: The back of my Twilight Drake
Registered: 2001-07-22
Posts: 9140

Re: The NEW Tool Thread

lol, I finally got around to checkin this thread big_smile.

The NC modding kit:

-Set of small screwdrivers from Radio shack to be able to open iBook RAM slot without eating the screw apart. Also very useful for other mods which have smaller screws.
-Ratchet set from Radio Shack. Has Torx, flathead, phillips, and others. Nice lil helper for working on Cubes. $15 at the time. Helps remove stuck screws a lot better than just a standard driver.
-Swiss Army Knife (Laugh it up but its an awesome multipurpose tool. Use it the most on my custom wire jobs. Too lazy and cheap to buy proper wire stipper stuff.)
-Tweezers of many different lengths. One I use the most is a pair that is about 10inches long. Nice tool for dealing with dropped screws or getting into tight spaces.
-Ice Pick...no not joking. I use one of these to get at hard to reach Cuda switches instead of pulling out a lot of hardware. Also good for removing ROM chips. Just slide pick thru hole on ROM PCB and lift carefully.
-Towel or shirt or a fan. Maybe its just me but everytime I mod I get a lil sweaty shrug. Need something to wipe it on and to keep cool.
-Duct tape and Electrical Tape. Never know when you might need one of the other.

Lastly, the one thing I dont have...

-Surgical steady hands to get job done faster big_smile


http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/sig/blueice/NC37.jpg

Offline

 

#13 2005-02-13 5:49 pm

Freezer mac
iPod scroll wheel
From: next to a big cold lake.
Registered: 2001-01-06
Posts: 7370

Re: The NEW Tool Thread

a must for taking hard drives apart is a tamper proof set for a drill or socket screwdriver... mine came in a little red rubberized case with optional magnet/quickseter. has 32 bits, inc hex, torx, star, tri-wing, and spanner.... can be found here(i found it at ace hardware for $5 in a grab-bin, but have seen it sold for as much as $20 elsewhere.)

Offline

 

#14 2005-02-18 1:41 am

Mac_Addict58
Member
From: East Coast USA
Registered: 2003-02-17
Posts: 245
Website

Re: The NEW Tool Thread

Freezer mac wrote:

a must for taking hard drives apart is a tamper proof set for a drill or socket screwdriver... mine came in a little red rubberized case with optional magnet/quickseter. has 32 bits, inc hex, torx, star, tri-wing, and spanner.... can be found here(i found it at ace hardware for $5 in a grab-bin, but have seen it sold for as much as $20 elsewhere.)

I have one from Ace Hardware that I got for 20 bucks , which has more like 100 bits of all types.  This was sold in a large red rubberized box, and was labled very clearly.

Last edited by Mac_Addict58 (2005-02-18 1:44 am)


[MA]PBG4-Ghost Recon Division     
   Disclamer- Not responcible for anything typed after 12:00 in the morning.
        Yeah my spelling sometimes really does suck.

Offline

 

#15 2005-04-05 10:07 pm

ironhawk
Shai Dorsai!
From: San Francisco
Registered: 2001-10-16
Posts: 3080

Re: The NEW Tool Thread

NC mentioned a Swiss Army knife...
it's a good all-around tool.

I'm currently using a Leatherman multi-tool. It gets the job done, but a Gerber, methinks, is the best multitool made.

Something I found was insanely useful on my last project was the dremel for cleaning and reshaping the tip of my soldering iron.


All posts on the internet are postfixed by an invisible "IMHO". It's not in the html code, either.
-titok16

Offline

 

#16 2005-05-11 10:48 pm

markwlewis
Member
Registered: 2005-05-05
Posts: 9

Re: The NEW Tool Thread

For me, at a ripe old age of (more than most of you), I really needed and appreciate a halogen head mounted lamp. Yeah, it is geekified, but when crawling around under a table at 11:45 pm looking for a dropped hard drive jumper, it is the only way to go.

You can get a good one at a sporting goods "big box" store for 20-25 dollars.

Offline

 

#17 2005-06-16 10:57 am

assassin_bill
International Bitch Maker
From: (__
Registered: 2003-08-06
Posts: 1293
Website

Re: The NEW Tool Thread

--;


Innovation will not be included in the intel switch

Offline

 

#18 2005-06-20 6:53 am

ironhawk
Shai Dorsai!
From: San Francisco
Registered: 2001-10-16
Posts: 3080

Re: The NEW Tool Thread

markwlewis wrote:

For me, at a ripe old age of (more than most of you), I really needed and appreciate a halogen head mounted lamp. Yeah, it is geekified, but when crawling around under a table at 11:45 pm looking for a dropped hard drive jumper, it is the only way to go.

You can get a good one at a sporting goods "big box" store for 20-25 dollars.

It's also good when you drop the occasional resistor onto the carpet big_smile


All posts on the internet are postfixed by an invisible "IMHO". It's not in the html code, either.
-titok16

Offline

 

#19 2005-06-21 12:49 am

Phydeaux
Watching, Listening and Waiting
From: Hopin You'll Turn Out Th'Light
Registered: 2001-05-11
Posts: 29999
Website

Re: The NEW Tool Thread

ironhawk wrote:

I'm currently using a Leatherman multi-tool. It gets the job done, but a Gerber, methinks, is the best multitool made.

Oh, that's funny!

I'll be sure to tip my waitresses. tongue

I'm probably over-simplifying it, since both companies carry a wide arrangement of multi tools, but I've always found the usual needle-nose to regular pliers set up better and far more functional day-to-day on the Leatherman products than the channellockish set up on the gerbers I've used.


Spirit was crushed; now is fading, But I want to help make things right.
Because I can see and I can feel, and you can see and you can feel
So why don't we both either stand up and fight
Or at least together we'll call it a night.

Offline

 

#20 2005-06-21 1:49 am

ironhawk
Shai Dorsai!
From: San Francisco
Registered: 2001-10-16
Posts: 3080

Re: The NEW Tool Thread

Gerber needle-nose

I've found the locking mechanism of the Gerbers to be far safer and easier to use than the Leatherman's which requires you to open another tightly installed tool to close the one you're currently using. And the tools tend to open and close more smoothly on the Gerber.


All posts on the internet are postfixed by an invisible "IMHO". It's not in the html code, either.
-titok16

Offline

 

#21 2005-09-02 11:54 pm

Deadguy
Member
Registered: 2005-08-19
Posts: 362

Re: The NEW Tool Thread

Two words. Duct Tape!
big_smilewinktongue


Current Toys:
Mac Mini Intel Core Duo 1.66GHz, 2048MB RAM, 60GB HDD, iPhone 3G (8GB), Sony PSP, Sony PS3 (40GB), Asus EeePC 701 Surf 4GB

Offline

 

#22 2005-09-06 7:47 pm

deons got booter info
Member
Registered: 2005-09-06
Posts: 1

Re: The NEW Tool Thread

i got booter info lol really

Offline

 

#23 2005-09-06 8:55 pm

dv
Negusa Negest
Moderator
From: Minneapolis, MN
Registered: 1999-08-30
Posts: 18085

Re: The NEW Tool Thread

deons got booter info wrote:

i got booter info lol really

confused


"Now commences the process of cutting off the head, which generally takes from an hour to an hour and a half by an expert workman with a sharp blade." -Reuben Delano, Wanderings and Adventures

Online

 

#24 2006-03-03 7:05 am

macnuke
just a plano guy
Moderator
From: North Dallas 40
Registered: 2004-05-16
Posts: 7132

Re: The NEW Tool Thread

one thing all you young geeks forgot is one day, you will need
lighted magnifying glasses.
you wear them, they give around a 3x magnification and supply light from both left and right sides.

us elders find them quite useful.
10 bucks well spent

Offline

 

#25 2006-08-20 7:34 pm

macnuke
just a plano guy
Moderator
From: North Dallas 40
Registered: 2004-05-16
Posts: 7132

Re: The NEW Tool Thread

medical supply store goods.

high quality needle nose, clamps and a scalpel or two.
while these may be considered expensive by some, I find the higher quality of your tools, the easier/neater/higher quality the mod.

don't forget a box of band-aids

Offline

 

Board footer

Powered by PunBB 1.2.6
© Copyright 2002–2005 Rickard Andersson