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iopossum · 2003-01-25 5:25 am

I was going to write a long post about the changes and answer questions and a lot of stuff, but I'm sooooo tired. It's 3:23 am. The program itself has a startup thing that will tell you the changes so that should hold any early birds for now.

here it is:

http://users.adelphia.net/~ftolmasky/ap … _build.sit

sleep time

IcePenguin · 2003-01-25 8:00 am

iopossum.... what are we calling the suite? I need to know, because everything right now says "GradeX" (The grading app). What are we gonna name the entire bundle?

Touque Guy · 2003-01-25 1:55 pm

I'll do some localizations as soon as Systran is up. Great work, iopossom!

Mazer Rackham · 2003-01-25 3:11 pm

Great progress! I like the assignment editor. I'll get working on those icons.

iopossum · 2003-01-25 3:22 pm

iopossum.... what are we calling the suite? I need to know, because everything right now says "GradeX" (The grading app). What are we gonna name the entire bundle?

I'm hoping a lot of us can get together soon online and talk about this. I was thinking "TA" or "Teacher's Aid" but I don't like it much. So I'm totally open to suggestions.

I'll do some localizations as soon as Systran is up. Great work, iopossom!

I'm looking forward to them smile

Great progress! I like the assignment editor. I'll get working on those icons.

Great big_smile

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I'm going to email everyone that gave me their email tonight and get back in touch with a lot of people and see if we can really get this started.

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This may sound silly, but I need someone who is good with "file formats". I'm currently stuck because I'm not sure how I should save the data. Should the students be saved in seperate files than the grades so that they can be used by the other 3 apps like this:

Code:

...
&lt;student id=&quot;1247&quot;&gt;
&lt;firstname&gt;Joseph&lt;/firstname&gt;
&lt;lastname&gt;Stalin&lt;/lastname&gt;
&lt;/student&gt;
&lt;student id=&quot;2345&quot;&gt;
&lt;firstname&gt;John&lt;/firstname&gt;
&lt;lastname&gt;Lennon&lt;/lastname&gt;
&lt;/student&gt;
...

Then, in a seperate file, such as "grades.aplus"

Code:

&lt;assigment name=&quot;Homework 1&quot; Date=&quot;January 25, 2003&quot; pointTotal=&quot;25&quot;&gt;
&lt;grade forID=&quot;1247&quot;&gt;23&lt;/grade&gt;
&lt;grade forID=&quot;2345&quot;&gt;25&lt;/grade&gt;
&lt;/assignment&gt;

or... should it all be clumped in one file? A ".class" file? If not, then the students file may need to cross reference, like this:

Code:

&lt;gradeLocation= &quot;grades.aplus&quot;/&gt;

The other question is... should the assignments hold the grades, or the students?

Code:

&lt;student id=&quot;1247&quot;&gt;
&lt;firstname&gt;Joseph&lt;/firstname&gt;
&lt;lastname&gt;Stalin&lt;/lastname&gt;
&lt;grade forAssigment=&quot;Homework 1&quot;&gt;23&lt;/grade&gt;
&lt;/student&gt;
&lt;student id=&quot;2345&quot;&gt;
&lt;firstname&gt;John&lt;/firstname&gt;
&lt;lastname&gt;Lennon&lt;/lastname&gt;
&lt;grade forAssigment=&quot;Homework 1&quot;&gt;23&lt;/grade&gt;
&lt;/student&gt;

Each method has it's drawbacks. I'm totally open to suggestions in this department too.

Mazer Rackham · 2003-01-25 3:37 pm

I think the file should contain all the students, all the assignments and all the grades. Perhaps, if different classes had the same assignments there would be a way to extract all the assignments from a .class file (just the points, extra credit, name, date and all that) and put them in another file.

I've seen teachers add an assignment for each class (on some Windows program used at school) so I don't think they mind.

Also, I was thinking the name could be something like "eSuite," the e for education. eSuite, however, is taken.

It's a MySQL doodle.

Seidoger · 2003-01-25 3:49 pm

Would be glad to try it but the sheet that pops out at startup is too big for my 800X600 iBook, I can't dismiss it cry

IcePenguin · 2003-01-25 5:17 pm

How about MacClassroom? It sounds kinda cool I think. big_smile

Mazer Rackham · 2003-01-25 5:22 pm

How about MacClassroom? It sounds kinda cool I think.

Too long... Maybe like MacClass or iClass or eClass or something.

At least we're getting somewhere smile

IcePenguin · 2003-01-25 5:30 pm

eClass sounds cool... wadda ya think, iopossum?

iopossum · 2003-01-25 6:53 pm

works for me

Mazer Rackham · 2003-01-25 7:00 pm

Isn't eClass the name of a car? Or, "E Class"? I swear it's an SUV or something.

Just FYI smile

iopossum · 2003-01-25 7:03 pm

he's right. Plus, education Class is kinda redundant isnt it.

~Coxy · 2003-01-26 8:40 am

The other question is... should the assignments hold the grades, or the students?
...
Each method has it's drawbacks. I'm totally open to suggestions in this department too.

Dude, that's high school stuff! tongue
Normalisation of database tables? You may not have done it before.

Anyway, my advice to you is to always think of the one-to-many relationship: A teacher can have many classes, a class can have many students, a student can have many assigments, etc. Therefore, teachers, classes, students and assigments would all be different databases/tables/files.
Otherwise, you're going to end up with some *horrible* looking XML entries by the end of the year...

intaglio · 2003-01-26 10:34 am

If A-pLus or A+ isn't already the name, I would suggest it as a suitable name. Some people might confuse A+ with the word At.

Touque Guy · 2003-01-26 2:40 pm

eduClass?
eSchool?
Bellcurve? (this could be a name for a program)

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