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#76 2005-02-22 4:47 pm

Jehannum
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Re: Bicycle helmets

benightedbastard wrote:

Jehannum wrote:

Laws to avoid victimless crimes are pointless and beyond the state's purview, that's what's wrong with it.

So you don't think these laws save lives?

Nope.  They're revenue generators, pure and simple.


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#77 2005-02-22 5:36 pm

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Re: Bicycle helmets

resedit wrote:

Aqua OS X wrote:

resedit wrote:


That's why I use an iPod.
The buds work very well - helmet goes on just fine over them.

Personally, I tend to think riding a bike with an iPod is significantly more dangerous then riding a bike without a helmet.... especially in busy settings. I've seen one too many "iPod Zombies" on bikes harm pedestrians or almost get run over because they couldn't hear what was happening around them.

Volume control. It does wonders.
Some people might zone out I suppose. I don't. I also turn the volume down when I ride.

Ehh, You still have your ears plugged with little plastic disks. shrug

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#78 2005-02-22 8:19 pm

resedit
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Re: Bicycle helmets

I was making a joke (but yes, I do ride with my iPod - I'm actually faster with it, I guess it helps me keep rhythm, and takes my mind off of how big the hill really is)


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#79 2005-02-22 8:24 pm

agedgruel
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From: Great Plains, U.S.A.
Registered: 2004-06-05
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Re: Bicycle helmets

In my opinion, a law is not necessary here.  Parents paying attention to what their children are doing is what is necessary.  My eight-year-old son, for example, wears a helmet every time he rides his bike, or he no longer has a bike.  Or a Game Cube.  For two weeks.

One time, he forgot to put on his helmet.  His mom caught him.  That one time was all that was needed.

My wife and I never wore helmets when we were kids.  Times change.

As far as adults and helmets are concerned, I say that's Darwin at work.  It's like people who take methamphetamine.  If after looking at the list of ingredients used to make that smurf, and you still decide to use it, then you deserve whatever you get.

I'm all about free choices for adults.  I am also about the concept of actions have consequences.

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#80 2005-02-22 9:13 pm

macnuke
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Registered: 2004-05-16
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Re: Bicycle helmets

agedgruel wrote:

Parents paying attention to what their children are doing is what is necessary.
As far as adults and helmets are concerned, I say that's Darwin at work. 
I'm all about free choices for adults.  I am also about the concept of actions have consequences.

what part of that don't the idiots understand?
makes perfect sense to me.

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#81 2005-02-22 9:17 pm

wellfleation
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Re: Bicycle helmets

This afternoon, with out bringing this thread up, my coworker asked me if I heard of the kid who got hurt here in Mass. sledding. His dad, who probably feels guilty, is now pressuring our legislature to put forth a law requiring kids who are sledding to wear helmets. http://homepage.mac.com/oatmeal/MAF/maxes/wtf.gif I sh*t you not.

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#82 2005-02-23 12:08 am

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Re: Bicycle helmets

wellfleation wrote:

This afternoon, with out bringing this thread up, my coworker asked me if I heard of the kid who got hurt here in Mass. sledding. His dad, who probably feels guilty, is now pressuring our legislature to put forth a law requiring kids who are sledding to wear helmets. http://homepage.mac.com/oatmeal/MAF/maxes/wtf.gif I sh*t you not.

While I agree with some regulation over people's actions, such as helmet or seatbelt laws (I believe it falls in the same category as governments instituting public safety regulations for the workplace, health regulations for restaurants, or even such simple things as painting dividing lines and erecting guardrails on roads), I also think it can go too far, like the idea of wearing one while sledding. Of course, I'm going on the assumption that people aren't stupid enough to go sledding on a forested hill or anything like that, but perhaps that is a common practice in that community.

My cousin insisted her child wear a helmet when he rode his bike - I agreed with that. She also insisted he wear knee and elbow pads - I thought that was retarded and would scar him. She also gave him an incredibly vague, wimpy, sissy name (which I have blotted from my memory), so she had already ruined his life at the moment of his birth.


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#83 2005-02-23 12:18 pm

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Re: Bicycle helmets

I don't need no stinkin helmet.  I'm invincible.

When I was younger my older brother stole my bike and while looking back laughing while I swore at him, a car came around the corner of the building at about 10/15 mph.  He didn't even see it coming, and apparantly the driver wasn't too aware cuz it was a dead on collision.  My brother rolled over the hood, top, and trunk and landed on both feet, arms spread out.  It was the coolest thing I've ever seen.  You could tell he smurf his pants by the look of shock on his face, lol.  The bike was ruined though.  Helmets are good.


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#84 2005-02-23 12:38 pm

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Re: Bicycle helmets

Cynic wrote:

MuckSavage wrote:

resedit wrote:


When there is a fatallity or serious injury - it impacts everyone.

How so?

Well, a couple of years ago in my town, acollege student wiped out on inline skates, fell off a short cliff, and sustained head injuries that later killed her.  Now the parents are suing the city for a large sum of money.  If they win, where do you think the city will get the money from?  That's just one example.  There's also the fact that more preventable injuries increases the cost of medical insurance.

had you ever been to that park, you would know that the sidewalk dropped off into thin air with no guard rail to prevent a person from falling off. now they have put up a small fence to prevent people from skating off into thin air. her parents should get some money for the cities negligence in that matter (eg. when the sidewalk gets dumped into the lake due to erosion, put up a guard rail! )

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#85 2005-02-23 12:53 pm

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Re: Bicycle helmets

helmets?????? for BICYCLES???????


i'm glad those weren't invented yet when i was younger... that would have ruined the whole experience for me.


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