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b_dubb · 2003-01-27 6:17 pm

. . . actually a legitimate reason why there are ColdFusion MX Help Headers on my Mac Help application?

Ok, since ColdFusion runs on that . . ahem . . other platform, why include ColdFusion as a part of my Help header listings? Is there any reason for this? I have no experience working with CFM and don't really have a desire to start. I'm just wondering if there's a reason for this info to be included or if the ColdFusion Help is just a "vestigial" left over from Macromedia porting a pc app to the Mac platform. I mean . . . . most of the Help notes for Dreamweaver MX seem to be written with the PC in mind . . . even though the files rest on my Mac.

I ask you . . . . what gives?

bROCKNESS MoNSTER

lostghost · 2003-01-27 9:29 pm

ColdFusion runs on several.. ahem... other platforms, including Windows, Linux, Solaris and HP-UX. ColdFusion development can take place on any platform that offers a text editor.

You can't blame Macromedia for taking advantage of it's integrated product line unless you are also willing to criticize Adobe, Microsoft, Apple and others for doing the same thing.

TonyPrevite · 2003-01-28 3:03 am

Why did they include .Net and C# .asp server Models?

Just because you can't run the server on your platform of choice doesn't mean you can't develop on it.

I have a Linux Box right beside my Mac running ColdFusion for that very reason......

Another Point is that Dreamweaver is now THE only web-IDE that Macromedia supports, ColdFusion Studio went by the wayside in favor of streamlining the product line, after the aquisition of Allaire.

Although...ColdFusion Server does run on OSX now...as of about a month ago, as a development platform. As soon as Apple finishes with Java 1.4.1....expect ColdFusion to fully support OSX.

Scott · 2003-01-28 1:09 pm

I'm just wondering if there's a reason for this info to be included or if the ColdFusion Help is just a "vestigial" left over from Macromedia porting a pc app to the Mac platform. I mean . . . . most of the Help notes for Dreamweaver MX seem to be written with the PC in mind . . .

MM's key products are in no way "ports" of PC applications. They have always developed both. Sometimes one version will be ahead of the other, but that is rare, and it is not specific to PC versions. Looking over the manual and help on both versions, they appear to be the same and, even the PC version of the online help gives all the Mac key commands.

As Tony said, development is seperate from serving. In the end, Dreamweaver is just a fancy tool for making text files.

b_dubb · 2003-01-29 7:05 pm

i guess maybe i'm still miffed about all of the Dreamweaver MX books i've looked through lately that seemed to focus on PC and occassionaly mention the Mac. the night and day difference between Dreamweaver 4 documentation and Dreamweaver MX is baffling - version 4 was so completely documented that you didn't need to look elsewhere for information. MX is a different beast as the documentation is so light as to be practically of no help. i realize times are tough but geez.

bROCKNESS

TonyPrevite · 2003-01-29 8:48 pm

Well if you put yourself in a publishers position, which feature set would you highlight. 1. A platform that has 95% of the desktops out there or
2. A platform that has 5% of the Desktops

And when you really get down to it, aside from layout differences, the programs are identicle.

You'll see the same thing in a lot of Photoshop books these days too.

Didn't always used to be that way.....as Photoshop on the PC is fairly new (I'm old so forgive me....actually come to think of it...it's approaching 10 years..holy smurf where did the time go!)

Scott · 2003-01-30 4:18 am

i guess maybe i'm still miffed about all of the Dreamweaver MX books i've looked through lately that seemed to focus on PC and occassionaly mention the Mac. the night and day difference between Dreamweaver 4 documentation and Dreamweaver MX is baffling - version 4 was so completely documented that you didn't need to look elsewhere for information. MX is a different beast as the documentation is so light as to be practically of no help. i realize times are tough but geez.

bROCKNESS

Macromedia books used to be just crappy. Now they are just useless. I'm glad they sell them seperately now. The only good thing about them is that the colors are nice, and if you have many versions and types of MM apps., you get a cool looking bookshelf.

The FlashMX manual was one of the worst things I'd ever seen. It boasted killer new apps, but the manual was no help at all, most stuff was just undocumented.

On the upside, their web site kicks ass. The forums and support is second to none. It's the best place to look for info, or just call them. They are good folks.

b_dubb · 2003-01-30 6:14 pm

Macromedia books used to be just crappy. Now they are just useless. I'm glad they sell them seperately now. The only good thing about them is that the colors are nice, and if you have many versions and types of MM apps., you get a cool looking bookshelf.

THAT is funny!

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