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#1 2003-01-28 1:23 pm

derbyhat
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How do I become a "Mac person"?

Hi there,

I'm a switcher.  I bought an ibook last July.  I got the airport card, the extra RAM, I lurk this board, installed Jaguar, read all the Apple news I can find, etc etc etc.

I've flipped thru/read a bit of the various Jaguar books out there.  But most of them are a bit too slow for me.   I tend to pick up stuff fast and books that are geared towards "and then press the 'Save' button to Save the file" really bore me to tears.

I have this concept of being a "Mac person" - basically someone who knows his/her machine inside and out - from hardware to software.

If someone asks me "why'd you choose Mac", I'd like to be able to give a more indepth answer than "well...check out this slow-motion Genie effect".

So...how do I get there?  Does anyone have any advice?

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#2 2003-01-28 1:37 pm

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Re: How do I become a "Mac person"?

Just say, "You are right! I really am an idiot for buying a Mac!"

They should leave you alone after that.


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#3 2003-01-28 1:47 pm

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Re: How do I become a "Mac person"?

try these two web sites www.13idol.com/mac/macfacts.html and www.macvspc.info

Both are packed with info that show why a Mac is million times better than a PeeCee

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#4 2003-01-28 2:12 pm

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Re: How do I become a "Mac person"?

well, why did you switch?  I'm just curious.  you haven't made a mistake that's for sure.

as for becoming the Mac Person that knows the comp inside out...dive inside.  well...maybe not literally.  but dive in and see what you can mod and stuff.

www.macosxhints.com has some great stuff for the advanced user


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#5 2003-01-28 3:26 pm

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Re: How do I become a "Mac person"?

well, why did you switch? I'm just curious. you haven't made a mistake that's for sure.

Why did I switch?  I had a few reasons, some more justified than others.

Apple Marketing/Design:  I wanted a laptop.  And all the PC laptops that I saw just looked dumb.  The iBook looked cooler than everything else, both externally and internally.    I liked the various Switch Ads - "I saved Christmas!"

The first time I saw the iBook, I thought "I am so gonna paint this thing blue."  Now I just have to wait another 2.5 years for my AppleCare to run out.

The look of the Aqua interface.

Technical bits:  Long battery life.   A laptop that actually lasts 5 hours on 1 charge is great.  Of course, now I read about all of these iBook battery problems....but that's just irony (and not affecting me yet).

I liked the idea of a unix core.  I'd had lots of stability issues with Windows OSes.  Even the "stable" ones like W2K.

I hated WinXP and it was impossible to find a PC laptop w/o it.

There were other reasons, and I'm rambling.  so I'll stop.

Thanks for the websites!  Keep the advice coming if you've got any more!

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#6 2003-01-28 4:11 pm

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Re: How do I become a "Mac person"?

these are the sites you should know:

http://www.macaddict.com -you already knew that
http://www.macminute.com -the best mac new site hmho
http://www.versiontracker.com -latest mac software I visit there many times a day
http://www.dealmac.com -the latest deals on mac peripherals
http://www.macfixit.com -the latest troubleshooting tips
http://www.resexcellence.com -hack the appearance
http://www.xlr8yourmac.com -hack the hardware
http://www.thinksecret.com -rumor site
http://www.macrumors.com -ditto

There are more but I personally don't pay them much heed.


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#7 2003-01-28 4:11 pm

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Re: How do I become a "Mac person"?

cool

funny to think that the switch ads worked smile  but I guess that's coming from the view of "why do we need ads?  doesn't the world know that Apple is king and windows remains just because people aren't willing to learn something new?" smile

anyway.  for other places to look.  read every thread under Balloon Help, Mac OS X Troubleshooting, Tips and Tricks,  etc.  and search whenever you have a question on something.  odds are some part of it has been mentioned.  and ask us too.

welcome aboard.


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#8 2003-01-28 4:20 pm

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Re: How do I become a "Mac person"?

Did I hear somebody say McPherson? where?  eek


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#9 2003-01-28 4:28 pm

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Re: How do I become a "Mac person"?

these are the sites you should know:

http://www.macaddict.com -you already knew that
http://www.macminute.com -the best mac new site hmho
http://www.versiontracker.com -latest mac software I visit there many times a day
http://www.dealmac.com -the latest deals on mac peripherals
http://www.macfixit.com -the latest troubleshooting tips
http://www.resexcellence.com -hack the appearance
http://www.xlr8yourmac.com -hack the hardware
http://www.thinksecret.com -rumor site
http://www.macrumors.com -ditto

There are more but I personally don't pay them much heed.

Don't forget www.arstechnica.com for the biased and not-so-biased technical reads.  big_smile


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#10 2003-01-28 4:44 pm

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Re: How do I become a "Mac person"?

twisted

Welcome to the light, derbyhat.  If you use the sleep function versus shutdown, you can view the uptime in Terminal and show people that you have been up and running for x000 hours.  Any Windows fan should e appropriately awed.

However, the way to become a Mac fan is to troll the heck out of these boards.  I've found that MacAddict is a little more active than MacWorld.  I've found that the most Mac OS X knowledgeable are on these two boards.  Most importantly, their activity level means the info is pretty current.

Macosxhints, mentioned elsewhere in this thread, is like the Treasure Planet for OS X ... almost more cool info tghere than your eye can take in.  Very unix-y tone and had the hints I needed to hook a HP OfficeJet k80xi (not supported by HPO on Mac) to a print server and a two-mac network.

The other thing is to put back into the boards what you take out.  Just the act of teaching someone how you did somethng (even as rudimentary as a switch from Win and Outlook to Mac and Entourage) helps refine what you know and how you use it.

See you around.


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#11 2003-01-28 5:07 pm

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Re: How do I become a "Mac person"?

I just smile mysteriously and change the topic. wink   

A friend of mine who used to manage some pretty cool clubs in NY City once told me one of the secrets to running a club was having at least one area of the club that was almost impossible to get into, and reserving it for just the most elite visitors and desireable guests.  People get curious about mysteries....

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#12 2003-01-28 5:45 pm

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Re: How do I become a "Mac person"?

Yeah, there's no convincing the PeeCee crowd that they're lost in a wilderness of driver conflicts and corrupted registries... The best answer you can give is that you were sick of all the frustration and troubleshooting, and wanted to buy a machine that just worked.

What I always say is "I fix computer problems all day at work--when I get home I just want it to work. No driver conflicts, blue screens of death, or other nonsense." That usually brings the conversation to a rapid end.

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#13 2003-01-29 7:08 am

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Re: How do I become a "Mac person"?

Treat your Mac as a friend and it will be good to you, remember it's trying to help you.

You can tell people you switched because you wanted to get work done and wanted to have fun doing it.

Welcome to the cult that is Mac. I'm assuming you received your black cloak and prayer book with the iBook? You are required to visit out temples (Apple Stores) as often as possible and praise thy master Steve. Convert all that you meet for we know the truth and will die defending it.

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#14 2003-01-29 8:01 am

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Re: How do I become a "Mac person"?

I'd have to say you are the smartest switcher I've seen.  For once one that sees the reasons and not just picking out another computer.  Most of my switchers see a computer as a computer, and some will never see just how great a Mac is, but take it this way.  I see that you have not read "Apple Confidential by Owen Linzmayer (or Linzmeyer)"

That book is by far a great way to become that Mac Genius?


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#15 2003-01-29 8:55 am

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Re: How do I become a "Mac person"?

You guys are awesome.  I'm going to check out some of those websites on my lunch break.  Maybe I'll buzz by Borders to see if that book is available as well.

Consider this thread to be an end of my "lurking stage".   Thanks for the advice!

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#16 2003-01-29 9:52 am

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Re: How do I become a "Mac person"?

My favorite way to figure stuff out is just to dive in and get tinkering. What do you normally do? Are you just a casual websurfer and occasional gamer? Grab yourself a copy of Photoshop (trial version, elements, educational version, or the whole big scary thing) or Graphic Converter and try your hand at image editing. Put George Bush's head on a chimpanzee and send it to all your Republican friends. They love that.

If you're a web designer, try your hand at coding, either in Project Builder (on your Development Tools CD, if you got one with your mac) or Codewarrior. Put those l337 design skills to use on an interface for your bold new temperature converter (

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#17 2003-01-30 6:49 pm

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Re: How do I become a "Mac person"?

The nice thing about being a "switcher" at this point in history is that most of us long time mac users (mac 128K in 1984) are as new to OS X as the switchers - it's a good time to be switching.

most mac users don't know UNIX from eunuchs - which is totally cool - they just turn it on and use it . . .

. . . which is the whole idea of mac vs windoze . . .

as a user and supporter of ALL platforms (except LENNOX), I have found that switchers have a greater appreciation for the beauty of the MacOS that those of us who have not had to suffer the slings and arrows of Windoze OSes . . . .

so enjoy your new-found platform freedom, now you can wait for 5gHz G5 quad-processor configurations like "the rest of us" . . . .

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#18 2003-01-30 8:23 pm

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Re: How do I become a "Mac person"?

Mac OS X: Unleashed (2nd Edition) is a great book for an in depth view of Jaguar. Everything to GUI shortcuts to NetInfo is covered in it. A bit expensive, and long, but it's well worth it.

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#19 2003-01-31 4:10 am

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Re: How do I become a "Mac person"?

I became the font of worthless mac info I am today mostly by reading the same news sites day in and day out: MacNN, MacCentral, AppleLinks, As The Apple Turns, MacObserver, and MacFixit.  You learn a LOT that way, even if some of the news stories do overlap.

I also learned a lot just by talking to other people about their machines, and what hardware issues plague them.  I'd say that I know quite a bit about almost every machine that can run OS X (which is about when I started using a mac), just from knowing people that own them and seeing what pops up on news sites, petitions bitching about stuff, etc.

Speaking of which, you want to know YOUR machine inside and out.  Reading news sites only tells you about machines that you don't have (i.e. new hardware).  Know which ports you have, how much ram you can support, how much ram you have now, how its organized, how big your hard drive is, etc.  This will save you money and trouble later on when you decide to upgrade your machine.

Whatever happens, try not to become a zealot.  They're annoying.  The bottom line is that Macs have all the flaws that PC's have, just different.  Like Kernel Panics, driver incompatibilities, random installs of Apple software that clear our your user folder (OOPS!).  Understand the reasons for using a mac, but don't pretend that there are no problems.  If there were, Apple wouldn't make so much money on its three year AppleCare warranty.

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#20 2003-01-31 9:18 am

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Re: How do I become a "Mac person"?

Welcome my friend!  I hope you find this community as unique and wonderful as I do.

I'd say that the thing binding me to the mac is unconditional love, simple as that.  I'm not blind to the faults, I don't think it's right for everyone (and in fact I wish a life of PC hell upon a few people I truly dislike), yet I will always come back to the mac because of my respect for it.  It's always been like none other and I hope it always will remain so.

Look around the PC world; they don't bond with their machines en masse, most don't name their drives and there is no attached sense of community (beyond geek culture) that unites them.  The PC is a machine you buy at the store and watch rot on your desk.  For me, in a treacherous fire, I'd save (in order), my girlfriend, myself, and my mac.  That's what being a mac user means to me.

Well, I suppose it's less extreme for some, but I think everybody here understands.


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#21 2003-01-31 12:47 pm

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Re: How do I become a "Mac person"?

A great way to become a Mac person is to learn about all of the hardware. Go to lowendmac.com, and check out Apple's spec page. Both have profiles of older Macs all the way back to the original Macintosh.

As you learn about the Macs of old, you'll notice that unlike PCs most were very unique. The  AV models, the oddball behemoths like the Quadra 950, and the pizza box Macs not to mention the DOS compatable models with an X86 proc on a seperate card or the LCs with the apple II on an expansion card.

Soon you'll start filling the basement with old Macs, and figuring out how to get them networked, and finding cool ways to utilize the various built-in capabilities of a 7 year old Quadra.

Then you will know what it is to be a Mac person.

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#22 2003-01-31 1:57 pm

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Re: How do I become a "Mac person"?

if you are seriously whacked and bored to death, check this site i made, be prepared to wait a minute though for it to load, it' svery comprehensive and self made, yeah, BTW, there's a tad of non-mac stuff related too, but yeah, it here:
ca.geocities.com/kerrdude_2003/a.html
much fun if much bandwidth,
cheers
travis!

BTW, i really want to go to Rice University.

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#23 2003-01-31 3:12 pm

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Re: How do I become a "Mac person"?

http://www.bushorchimp.com/

Put George Bush's head on a chimpanzee and send it to all your Republican friends. They love that.

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#24 2003-01-31 3:13 pm

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Re: How do I become a "Mac person"?

Wow, I really thought I'd see plenty of simple answers to this seemingly simple question.  I think the whole "Mac" appeal is just that.  Simplicity, and the warmer human feeling you get from all Macs.  People still keep their old Macs because they have a personality that you like about them.  Macs are like dogs.  They're loyal, obedient and sometimes this piss on the carpet or bark for no apparent reason but overall they are nice to have and you want them around all the time. 

You have other finer details and technical details to compare but over all Macs have one thing that the PC world cannot beat, Mac loyalty.  It comes from the warm fuzziness that comes from owning a Mac, once you get over the initial get to know you better process.


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#25 2003-01-31 4:24 pm

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Re: How do I become a "Mac person"?

if you are seriously whacked and bored to death, check this site i made, be prepared to wait a minute though for it to load, it' svery comprehensive and self made, yeah, BTW, there's a tad of non-mac stuff related too, but yeah, it here:
ca.geocities.com/kerrdude_2003/a.html
much fun if much bandwidth,
cheers
travis!

BTW, i really want to go to Rice University.

Got a T1 @ work.  That was definitely among the more interesting webpages I've ever loaded.  I may head back there sometime.  It seems to be a 1 stop shop for &lt;i&gt;everything&lt;/i&gt;.

Thanks!

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