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#51 2005-03-31 10:02 am
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Re: Longhorn v. Tiger
All I know is that Google Labs didn't make a copy of the Start menu.
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#52 2005-03-31 10:57 am
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Re: Longhorn v. Tiger
The New Guy wrote:
All I know is that Google Labs didn't make a copy of the Start menu.
It's not exactly the Dock, either. For that matter, it's vaguely similar to the KDE or Gnome panels, as well. 
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#53 2005-03-31 5:43 pm
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Re: Longhorn v. Tiger
It still wasn't a copy of the start menu.
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#54 2005-03-31 6:34 pm
Re: Longhorn v. Tiger
Actually its named after a bar at the bottom of Whistler mountain.
Okay, so they named it after a bar at some mountain...yet they still used the neutered cow for the logo?
http://forkweb.centralfilmes.com/programas/longhorn.jpg
suuuure....
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#55 2005-04-01 4:35 am
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Re: Longhorn v. Tiger
squish wrote:
Actually its named after a bar at the bottom of Whistler mountain.
Okay, so they named it after a bar at some mountain...yet they still used the neutered cow for the logo?
http://forkweb.centralfilmes.com/programas/longhorn.jpg
suuuure....
So what do you want them to use as a logo? A picture of a tavern? You don't suppose that the Longhorn bar might possibly have some association to *gasp* a longhorn do you?
In all seriousness everyone who attacks the longhorn codename is just looking for another reason to attack Microsoft. I'm certainly not a Microsofty, but really...I think Longhorn is a perfectly fine codename.
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#56 2005-04-01 10:08 am
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Re: Longhorn v. Tiger
It is a perfectly fine code name. It perfectly describes the OS. This OS will take a LONG time to get to were its going. And for the most part. Will be eaten alive by everyone once it is release. However, once it makes it to were it is supposed to be going. It will find that others have already gotten there by a few years, and it is now too old to be of any real use, except dead.
Just my 2c..
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#57 2005-04-01 2:49 pm
Re: Longhorn v. Tiger
I just wonder how well something named "Longhorn" will sell in places like Bryant-College Station and the entire state of Oklahoma. Apple should be making some aggressive moves in those parts. And "Tiger" is a natural in Columbia, MO, Princeton, etc.
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#60 2005-04-13 10:43 pm
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Re: Longhorn v. Tiger
My view of OS X vs XP:
Safari: better
Mail: better
Instant messenger: Proteus, better in the ways I want it to be
RSS with NetNewsWire Lite: excellent
Desktop Manager: virtual desktops
OS X eye candy: hugely better
System maintenance: again, much better
System security: (waves of laughter)
Time for a piece of rhubarb pie. 
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#61 2005-04-14 10:51 am
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Re: Longhorn v. Tiger
Posted with the wrong topic so I moved it to the "Another year another $ post"
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#62 2005-04-14 11:16 am
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Re: Longhorn v. Tiger
Wow... that contextual menu image was a perfect reason to hate windows! I have taught a few computer classes to older people, and I can't get over how badly those menus suck. One false move and the whole tower of menus goes crashing down. You try to get a shaky elderly man to move the mouse precisely from menu to menu....
Yes, Macs have contextual menus too, but for some reason they aren't quite as painful.
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#63 2005-04-14 12:59 pm
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Re: Longhorn v. Tiger
Vokbain wrote:
Paul Thurrott is a dink.
Really? I always thought of him more as an asswipe. Oh well, to each their own... 
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#64 2005-04-14 1:04 pm
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Re: Longhorn v. Tiger
sosumi wrote:
Of course, Longhorn is not nearly as far along as Tiger so it's not technically fair to compare something that's 1.5 years+ from release to something coming out in less than a month.
exactly, I dont know why people compare the two, I mean a longhorn to 10.5 could be fair
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#65 2005-04-14 1:17 pm
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Re: Longhorn v. Tiger
Marc wrote:
sosumi wrote:
Of course, Longhorn is not nearly as far along as Tiger so it's not technically fair to compare something that's 1.5 years+ from release to something coming out in less than a month.
exactly, I dont know why people compare the two, I mean a longhorn to 10.5 could be fair
Because they are supposedly going to have roughly the same major feature set when they are both released. A better comparison would be 10.4 and Longhorn in 2 years. 
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#66 2005-04-15 4:24 pm
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slashdot wrote:
News.com has up a preview of Microsoft's current build of Longhorn operating system, from Jim Allchin, Microsoft group vice president. The timing is not coincidental with Apple's Tiger release, as Allchin pointed out some advantages that Microsoft had over Apple's OS: 'High on the list of features are security enhancements, improved desktop searching and organizing, and better methods for laptops to roam from one network to another.'"
focus on security, a plus compared to apple??? HAH!
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#67 2005-04-16 11:36 am
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Re: Longhorn v. Tiger
Longhorn still looks just like XP with a new theme, it's butt ugly and I see no innovation what so ever.
I do see lots of copying of other peoples features though.
If this is all they are going to bring to the table after all that time, well shame on them.
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#68 2005-04-16 11:53 am
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Re: Longhorn v. Tiger
duke91 wrote:
Longhorn still looks just like XP with a new theme, it's butt ugly and I see no innovation what so ever.
I do see lots of copying of other peoples features though.
If this is all they are going to bring to the table after all that time, well shame on them.
Thats because they have disabled aero in the alphas that have been released and put the slate theme as the enabled default.
Its an alpha dudes. Not much to compare at this time. Wait until a final release and then see where its at.

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#69 2005-04-16 2:31 pm
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Re: Longhorn v. Tiger
This doesn't directly apply to the title of this thread, but I just did some work on the Windows XP Pro platform, and although I can't really say anything technically bad about it, I don't think you can compare the experience of using Mac OS vs. Windows. Mac is all about the experience, and if Longhorn actually comes out and accomplishes the experience factor, it will earn points while at the same time follow Apple's lead, once again.
Right now, using a Mac is fluid and enjoyable, which I don't think has ever been a design goal in making any version of Windows. Enjoyable to use a computer? Not in the scope of MS. However, Mac OS may only seem that way because there is this drab and boring OS on most of the computers in the world to compare it to.
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#70 2005-04-16 3:30 pm
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Re: Longhorn v. Tiger
knobtwirler wrote:
Right now, using a Mac is fluid and enjoyable, which I don't think has ever been a design goal in making any version of Windows. Enjoyable to use a computer? Not in the scope of MS. However, Mac OS may only seem that way because there is this drab and boring OS on most of the computers in the world to compare it to.
Thats a pretty good theory and I agree with it.
If OS X were the primary OS in the world I'm sure we'd find excitement in windows or whatever the underdog OS being available might be. Its a different experience between what is 'normal'

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#71 2005-04-16 3:43 pm
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Re: Longhorn v. Tiger
Egress wrote:
The New Guy wrote:
All I know is that Google Labs didn't make a copy of the Start menu.
It's not exactly the Dock, either. For that matter, it's vaguely similar to the KDE or Gnome panels, as well.
It's clearly an homage to the dock (as the little poem at the bottom of the page indicates), as well as the fact the URL is "GoogleX". I'm sure they could have made it more Dock-like though...
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#72 2005-04-16 4:50 pm
Re: Longhorn v. Tiger
JacKTHELioN wrote:
In all seriousness everyone who attacks the longhorn codename is just looking for another reason to attack Microsoft. I'm certainly not a Microsofty, but really...I think Longhorn is a perfectly fine codename.
Fine codename? Sure. Good marketing tactic? Nope. Longhorn. Cow. OS. Ha. 
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#73 2005-04-17 12:17 pm
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Re: Longhorn v. Tiger
HackerJax wrote:
duke91 wrote:
Longhorn still looks just like XP with a new theme, it's butt ugly and I see no innovation what so ever.
I do see lots of copying of other peoples features though.
If this is all they are going to bring to the table after all that time, well shame on them.Thats because they have disabled aero in the alphas that have been released and put the slate theme as the enabled default.
Its an alpha dudes. Not much to compare at this time. Wait until a final release and then see where its at.
Than why are they making such a big deal out of this if it has nothing to show, other than theories of what they may put in there.
If it is an Alpha it should not be drummed up like it is.
It just sounds like the propaganda machine is in full swing with actually nothing to show besides promises and vapor.
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#74 2005-04-17 2:25 pm
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Re: Longhorn v. Tiger
squish wrote:
Actually its named after a bar at the bottom of Whistler mountain.
Okay, so they named it after a bar at some mountain...yet they still used the neutered cow for the logo?
http://forkweb.centralfilmes.com/programas/longhorn.jpg
suuuure....
Thats the PR group at work.
Here is the web site for the bar:
http://www.longhornsaloon.ca/home.htm

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#75 2005-04-17 3:55 pm
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Re: Longhorn v. Tiger
duke91 wrote:
HackerJax wrote:
duke91 wrote:
Longhorn still looks just like XP with a new theme, it's butt ugly and I see no innovation what so ever.
I do see lots of copying of other peoples features though.
If this is all they are going to bring to the table after all that time, well shame on them.Thats because they have disabled aero in the alphas that have been released and put the slate theme as the enabled default.
Its an alpha dudes. Not much to compare at this time. Wait until a final release and then see where its at.Than why are they making such a big deal out of this if it has nothing to show, other than theories of what they may put in there.
If it is an Alpha it should not be drummed up like it is.
It just sounds like the propaganda machine is in full swing with actually nothing to show besides promises and vapor.
The propoganda machine is in full swing! Big time!
All the cool stuff they have shown at WinHEC and the developer conferences. They just haven't released that stuff for us to play with yet 

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