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Podesta wrote:

And, no, I am not falling for 'we didn't know the child is black.'  I'm sure most people did, considering national coverage of the episode on television.

MAF is pretty much my only exposure to current events. I rarely watch TV, and when I do, I don't watch the news...

I wouldn't expect most members of MAF to lie about not knowing the race for the purpose of concealing any latent racism.

Last edited by mo' ron (2005-04-25 4:10 pm)

mo' ron wrote:

Podesta wrote:

And, no, I am not falling for 'we didn't know the child is black.'  I'm sure most people did, considering national coverage of the episode on television.

MAF is pretty much my only exposure to current events. I rarely watch TV, and when I do, I don't watch the news...

This is the first Ive heard of it, probably because I don't watch tv news much at all.

Steyr, I had no way of knowing you don't watch television and were unaware of the race of the child.   And, I made a point of using the phrase 'some people' in subsequent references to racial animus.   I am not going to claim to be Omniscient.  You have since made it clear that you did not know the race of the child and thus were not influenced in that way.  I accept that as being true.  But, most people do watch television news and did know.

Mars, in the absence of evidence otherwise, I see no reason to believe a child's behavior problems are being faked.  Also, SSI payments kick in when people become adults and can't support themselves unless the disability is something much more limiting than attention deficit disorder or whatever a child like her might have.  I do wonder why the school system did not diagnose her and come up with an appropriate education plan if she had problems before this incident.

children, don't make me get the paddle...

Lying? Why would I bother? And I would have what to gain from that?

To begin with, in the video that took place in the principle's office, you can plainly hear the officer say that. I suggest you turn up the volume. I never said that I READ it, I said you can HEAR the officer saying that.

Podesta wrote:

Steyr, I had no way of knowing you don't watch television and were unaware of the race of the child.   And, I made a point of using the phrase 'some people' in subsequent references to racial animus.   I am not going to claim to be Omniscient.  You have since made it clear that you did not know the race of the child and thus were not influenced in that way.  I accept that as being true.  But, most people do watch television news and did know.

Mars, in the absence of evidence otherwise, I see no reason to believe a child's behavior problems are being faked.  Also, SSI payments kick in when people become adults and can't support themselves unless the disability is something much more limiting than attention deficit disorder or whatever a child like her might have.  I do wonder why the school system did not diagnose her and come up with an appropriate education plan if she had problems before this incident.

I am black and I think you are a whinny cry baby. You must be one of those people who think they are acting on behalf of the black race while you are just a disruption. From my point of view this is not a case of Race and you are offending me. I think you should think with your brain rather than with your hatred for others, Podesta.

Last edited by GTO_onizuka (2005-04-26 11:23 am)

subcitizen wrote:

it's not a race issue at all, it's a child-rearing issue. if the kid will act that way at school, imagine how she acts at home. that girl has been taught a very valuable lesson about where disobedience gets you, and it will be something she remembers for the rest of her life. for the mother to take legal action would just be like saying to that girl "you were right to throw that temper tantrum and attack those teachers, and the police were wrong". the kid was out of control, not the police, and it would be a sad day when 5 year olds have just as much (or more) power than teachers, their parents, or police officers. the kid wasn't hurt, the police officers did nothing wrong, there's no legal grounding or reason to sue.

-andrew

Now it's a race issue.

Laura wrote:

Great. Now the ACLU is getting involved!

After we first aired this story, many of you in law enforcement wrote in to "DaySide" saying that the officers on the video were strictly following protocol and were restraining the girl to prevent injury to herself or others.

Laura wrote:

I'm sorry...I meant to say Al Sharpton...here is the link.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,154714,00.html

Al Sharpton, ACLU, Communists, Nazis, Baptists, Liberals, Greenies, Masons, Polka-Dot People, People from New Hampshire... they're all the same. Why not.

Steyr AUG wrote:

Donovan Osaya wrote:

Laura wrote:

I'm sorry...I meant to say Al Sharpton...here is the link.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,154714,00.html

Al Sharpton, ACLU, Communists, Nazis, Baptists, Liberals, Greenies, Masons, Polka-Dot People, People from New Hampshire... they're all the same. Why not.

I think you just panicked the google advertisements.

I'm seeing a bunch of autism help advertisements,