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Wha?  That was... confusing, if not uncalled for.

Bungie doesn't necessarily have to be the ones making it, do they? They outsourced Halo for Mac, and I think the later Myths were done by people other than Bungie too, weren't they?

Apparently they don't know own Oni anymore either.  Marathon and Halo are about the bulk of their property.  Well, the property worth a darn anyway.

Bat wrote:

Myth was sold outright to get some operating capital- they no longer own that title.

You are mixing things up slightly.  Take 2 owned 19.9% of the company; when Microsoft bought Bungie, Take 2 got (among other things) the rights to Oni and Myth in exchange for their chunk of Bungie.

-Matt

[killed by the Guardians]

sosumi wrote:

Apparently they don't know own Oni anymore either.  Marathon and Halo are about the bulk of their property.  Well, the property worth a darn anyway.

Are you aware of the Pathways Into Darkness mod on the Doom 3 engine? The first level was out a month or two ago.

And don't tell me you don't still play Minotaur. C'mon, 'fess up...

They've already said, in interviews, that a HUGE chunk of Halo-universe history has been timelined out, and what we've seen of Halo is like a fraction of a second in comparison with what they've thought out (from what I remember, thousands of years of the chronology have been planned out, both leading up to what we've seen, and what comes after).  Based on that, they could conceivably make games until well after I'm able to play them.

Now, that said, I'm expecting to see Halo 3, and then we'll probably see games that take place long after this part of the saga is over.  King of like looking at the KotOR series, and then the Star Wars movies.  Or anything from the StarSeige universe (StarSeige, Tribes/T2, T:V)

NAG wrote:

Halo 19987135: Combat Mostestly Evolved: MC makes a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.

Oooo! That sounds difficult. I mean, its not everyday that you can fight off alien hordes to get to the jelly jar.

Love em or hate em that's a pretty good move.  I can't really imagine one game taking that much of the polish off of an entirely new console.  Unless it's really, really good.  And I doubt that--Halo 2 was disappointing.

Has it yet dawned on any of you half-wits that the reason that Halo 2 failed to live up to all its hype (in particular, the reason it ended so abruptly) is that Microsoft made a sneaky albeit strategic move to break what should have been a complete game into two parts. The first to keep the fanboys strung along -- just long enough for the second part to steal Sony's PS3 thunder.  Halo is the ony exclusive franchise on the Xbox that is worth a damn, but they only had the one story arc on the drawing board and near completion.  Microsoft needed something to keep sales going through this past holiday season -- but dilemma of dilemmas, they also needed something to counter the competition when the next generation of consoles arrived. Thus begets your corporate hack and repackage job, the equivalent of a baby food manufacturer padding their product with sawdust.

It was the plan from the beginning. I wouldn't be surprised to find that Halo 3 is already in the can, ready to be launched right when the PS3 goes on sale.

You suckers are just being granted the "opportunity" by Microsoft to wait a year or more to fork out another 50 bucks for what you already payed for last year.  The fact that the interrim stalling tactic that H2 has proven to be has actually garnered 6.5M units sold tells me just how many fools there really are.  But I don't doubt the same Darwinian deadends will be lined up to pay the same amount again to get the other half of what they thought they were getting with H2.

Halo 2 was rushed to completion.  That's a fact, and there's no denying it.  It was either 50 dollars for a shorter Halo 2 that was lacking some of the features it could have had in November, or a complete Halo 2 coming out on the Xbox/Xbox360 in late 2005/2006.  Microsoft didn't purposely make Bungie unable to complete Halo 2.  And it's not like there's another half of Halo 2 that was just cut from the final product only to be sold in 2006.

But shady marketing of games is here to stay.  It's been that way in the Movie industry for decades.  Have fun playing all your little independent shareware games if you don't like the way the game industry works.  I dunno about you, but I kinda liked Halo 2.  It doesn't matter if they stretched out the storyline, rather than making it nice and tight.  That just means that I'll be enjoying more of Halo later on.  And you... you can keep on calling people half-witted suckers if it makes you feel better.

P.S. you might at least want to watch the Halo 2 documentary that came with the special edition before blinding extoling your "insider" knowledge on Halo 2.

fuchikoma wrote:

Has it yet dawned on any of you half-wits that the reason that Halo 2 failed to live up to all its hype (in particular, the reason it ended so abruptly) is that Microsoft made a sneaky albeit strategic move to break what should have been a complete game into two parts...It was the plan from the beginning. I wouldn't be surprised to find that Halo 3 is already in the can, ready to be launched right when the PS3 goes on sale...I know because Hitler's brain broadcasts morse-code messages to the fillings in my teeth from a bunker in Atlantis, where he and Elvis direct Microsoft's army of evil sasquatch marketing goons...dammit, my tin-foil hat keeps falling off...etc.

Someone needs to put down the pipe.

-Matt