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#1 2005-04-08 9:46 am
Should I go double processor?
I own a Power Mac G4 tower with a single 933MHz processor and 768mb of RAM. It works like a beauty in OS 10.3.8 but I'm feeling it's a bit sluggish sometimes, especially when I work with complex files in Macromedia Flash or GarageBand. First of all: is it possible/affordable to put in a second processor, and would it make a huge difference, or would the right thing to do be to get a brand new G5 instead?
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#2 2005-04-09 7:53 am
Re: Should I go double processor?
It is possible to make it into a dual-CPU machine, but not by simply plugging in a second CPU.
You'll need a dual-CPU daughtercard, to be installed in place of your current single-CPU card. You can either get one from an upgrade manufacturer, like Sonnet, Giga Designs or PowerLogix, or you can hunt for an Apple CPU card on eBay or elsewhere. Make sure you get a card that works in your particular machine, though.
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#3 2005-04-09 8:43 am
Re: Should I go double processor?
Alien wrote:
It is possible to make it into a dual-CPU machine, but not by simply plugging in a second CPU.
You'll need a dual-CPU daughtercard, to be installed in place of your current single-CPU card...
Ok... so it's possible... But will it be worth it? Will it be much cheaper than buying a new more powerful mac, and most importantly, will there be any significant difference in performance when working with apps like Macromedia Flash?
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#4 2005-04-09 10:11 am
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Re: Should I go double processor?
It will most certainly be cheaper to upgrade, but a new G5 will be much faster overall than an upgraded machine. I plan to upgrade my QS 933, but I want to wait for the prices to fall first. Last time I looked the dual processor cards were in the $550 to $700 range from Giga Designs. If you have alot invested in your machine (hard drives, memory, etc) then it pays to upgrade. The G5's use a different hard drive connector, so your current drives are useless without a separate IDE PCI card. Also, they use a different memory type than your current machine. If you are pretty well stock, then it might pay to drop the extra cash and pick up a new machine. The G5's have more future potential than your G4 (64 bit OS and programs).
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#5 2005-04-09 6:53 pm
Re: Should I go double processor?
Ok then... Now I've got something to think about... In any case I would have to wait a few months 'till I could afford either an upgrade or a new mac... I'm leaning towards getting a G5 iMac, but I really want to wait 'till they ship with Tiger included.
Thanks a lot for the help anyways both of you...
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#6 2005-04-09 11:14 pm
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Re: Should I go double processor?
iMacs are no fun. Upgrade the Power Mac.
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#8 2005-04-10 6:52 am
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Re: Should I go double processor?
Yeah I'm guessing it would be faster but is the iMac upgradable?
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#9 2005-04-10 9:09 am
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Re: Should I go double processor?
The iMac would probably be faster, but you can't add additional hard drives, PCI cards, etc., and you can't upgrade the video card. All you can really upgrade is the RAM and swap out your standard hard drive for a bigger one. My friend's dad just bought the 1.8 Ghz 17" iMac G5 and he really loves it. He ran a rendering app on it and was blown away by how much faster it was than his top-o-the-line expensive Toshiba laptop. This machine was half of what he paid for that laptop and was more than twice as fast in the applications he runs. There is only one program that he needs that doesn't run on Macs, so he is writing a Mac version of it for the organization that wrote the original (some old time radio club, it is a cataloging software for organizing and playing old time radio shows). The G5 (or G4 for that matter) tower will give you more choices for expansion and upgrading than the iMac ever will. The iMacs are generally geared towards lower end home/business users that don't need a massive tower sitting on their desk. Your best bet would be to go to an Apple Store or an Apple retailer and try out the iMacs. Maybe they will let you run your rendering programs on there to see if they are fast enough for you. I personally plan to upgrade my system because I don't do enough processor intensive tasks on it to warrant a new one. If your computer is your livelyhood, then it may make more sense to buy new as a faster computer will save you time and money in the long run.
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#10 2005-04-10 3:53 pm
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Re: Should I go double processor?
If you plan to use your machine to run professional programs then don't mess with iMacs. Go straight to tower unless you just do not have the income to afford it. Keep in mind that when the G5s first came out the MDD dual 1.42Ghz G4 tower beat the G5 1.6Ghz in altivec apps. The G5's altivec unit is similar to the original 7400 G4s so its not as advanced as say going with a 7455/7457. I haven't seen the tests of the 7447s to compare.
Course when Tiger comes out and after time more apps start using more 64bit processing then G5 will most likely be the way to go vs the older 32bit G4s.
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#11 2005-04-10 9:35 pm
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Re: Should I go double processor?
SneakySir wrote:
PowerMacMan wrote:
iMacs are no fun. Upgrade the Power Mac.
But surely a G5 iMac must be faster than any upgrade I can get for my G4 tower?

A Dual 1.8GHz upgraded G4 would oblitterate an iMac G5.
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#12 2005-04-11 6:15 am
Re: Should I go double processor?
Hmm... The hardest tasks I would unload upon my computer are flash documents with advanced graphics and 50+ layers. Or work with songs in GarageBand. Both of those things are possible to do on my current computer, but only in a very, very sluggish kind of way... and more than twice has GarageBand told me it cannot play the current song in realtime, due to my slow processor...
In any case I'm just going to do the sensible thing and go to an Apple store and try to figure out what I need for my self...
Thanks to everyone who helped me, it's much appriciated...
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#13 2005-04-11 5:15 pm
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Okay...
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#14 2005-05-16 3:33 pm
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Re: Should I go double processor?
You are going to go to SALEMEN to "figure" your situation out?
You think this is more "sensible" than talkin to these guys who have 'been there done that' and do not get paid to SELL you new equipment.
I work with BOTH Apple Reps and Apple Store salemen. First off, most employees in the Apple store are no more than Silver Certified through Apple. (They are bias salesmen who know nothing.)
If you are going there to load your apps and files and see how they run, good for you. This is smart of you and will give you a basis to work off. But are you going to go and load onto a dual G4 so it is a fair comparison? ((I am with PowerMacMan.))
I also work with a guy who owns a multi-million dollar graphics design company. There is a reason they are using the older dual proc machines, CRTs, and older OSs (bootable in 9 unlike the new machines with Tiger) etc.
You may not have the same use for your machine as he does for all his employees. I am only pointing out that the G4s are NOT slow and DO have their place in the world. upgrade... Jmy.02
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#15 2005-05-16 6:19 pm
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Re: Should I go double processor?
Eh, I'm sure he already bought a nice new Mac with an obscene amount of obscenely expensive Apple RAM per the salesman's advice.
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#16 2005-05-21 4:30 pm
Re: Should I go double processor?
PowerMacMan wrote:
Eh, I'm sure he already bought a nice new Mac with an obscene amount of obscenely expensive Apple RAM per the salesman's advice.
Haha... No I haven't bought or done anything yet... Right now I'm too busy trying to live with the kinks of Mac OS Tiger...
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#17 2005-05-21 11:59 pm
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Re: Should I go double processor?
SneakySir wrote:
Right now I'm too busy trying to live with the kinks of Mac OS Tiger...
You're a member of a very small club then.
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