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#26 2005-06-10 4:10 pm

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Re: I Now Know My Way Around the Clamshell's Innards

DUDE!
this is perfect, i just got an iBook too, 300 blueberry etc.... i need to swap out the HD and wouldn't mind some advice on overclocking either... 300 is so slow.... RAM-wise, it's got 384 MB's and i GUESS that's what i'll have to live with for right now... i can't spend that much for a 512 chip, ~88$? anyways, i've yet to make any mods requiring me to take off the topcase, which i'm planning on doing tonight.... so.... thoughts, suggestions, comments?
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travis

ps. a friend gave me a 20 gig drive, but i'll have to see how tall it is, i'd really hate to open it all up just to find out that i'ts too tall or that i'd have to cut into my new precious and newly acquired 'book

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#27 2005-06-10 8:25 pm

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Re: I Now Know My Way Around the Clamshell's Innards

Just take a ruler to the drive. If it's 8mm, you're in luck. 9.5 I think would still fit, but 12.5mm will definitely not, at least without modification.

As for the takeapart, just take your time the first time around. If you've never done something like this before, I'd say it will take you between 90 and 120 minutes. Once you know your way around, it's more like 20 to disassemble and reassemble. Of course, things take longer when soldering and dremeling come into play.

You'll need a T7 torx bit and sizes 0 and 00 phillips bits.

First thing is to close the iBook, flip it over and remove the battery. There are screws in the battery bay. Remove those and remove the ones  throught the clear plastic at the back of the iBook.
Then, open the CD ROM, and you'll see a small phillips screw. Remember, the iBook is still on its back.
Then, flip it back over, remove the keyboard, remove the tray the Airport card sits in, and disconnect the keyboard and trackpad ribbon cables. Afterword, gently pry the palmrest plastics away, being careful not to break the speaker cable, and you'll see what you're in for next wink

Basically, from here on out, you'll want to disconnect all cables beforehand, if you can get to them, to prevent damaging them. Find a way that is best for you to keep track of the screws, using, maybe, an old egg carton, and draw sketches, if you need to.
And, yes, the screen assembly will need to come off to get to the hard drive ( though I think an added measure to my 12.5mm hard drive mod would resolve such an issue ).

To overclok the CPU, simply use the link I provided earlier in the thread, to see the PLL configuration and close-up photos of the resistors.

Hope that helps.


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#28 2005-06-10 10:04 pm

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Re: I Now Know My Way Around the Clamshell's Innards

ironhawk wrote:

Just take a ruler to the drive. If it's 8mm, you're in luck. 9.5 I think would still fit, but 12.5mm will definitely not, at least without modification.

yep, it's 9.5mm-ish, so I think we're good

ironhawk wrote:

You'll need a T7 torx bit and sizes 0 and 00 phillips bits.

Actually, I think the official spec calls for a T8? but anyways, i have the T8, and it appears to work

ironhawk wrote:

...Find a way that is best for you to keep track of the screws, using, maybe, an old egg carton, and draw sketches, if you need to.

yep, i'm planning on using the PBfixit guide with the screw guide :-)

ironhawk wrote:

And, yes, the screen assembly will need to come off to get to the hard drive ( though I think an added measure to my 12.5mm hard drive mod would resolve such an issue ).

what? there's some way i can change out the drive without taking out the display? that's the part that i'm most worried about

ironhawk wrote:

To overclock the CPU, simply use the link I provided earlier in the thread, to see the PLL configuration and close-up photos of the resistors.
Hope that helps.

right, i looked at that site, but does that mean i've got to cut and also re-solder some resistors? i can't just manually flip a switch or something? :'(

anyways, thanks man!
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#29 2005-06-10 10:30 pm

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Re: I Now Know My Way Around the Clamshell's Innards

Unfortunately, there's a metal guard which covers everything, including the hard drive, and part of the support for the screen assembly is on top of it.

And, yes, warm up that soldering iron big_smile


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#30 2005-06-11 8:37 am

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Re: I Now Know My Way Around the Clamshell's Innards

dang it, ok, i'm stuck at 300 Mhz then, but i'll be at 20 gigs by this afternoon i hope, wish me luck
thanks
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#31 2005-06-15 7:56 pm

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Re: I Now Know My Way Around the Clamshell's Innards

w3wt!
i'm up to 20 gigs now, and nary a screw left over.... i accidentally whacked one of the shiny looking silver patches when i was removing the hard drive's standoff screws....  but upon inspection everyting looks dandy! thanks to carbon copy cloner i'm all back to business.... as an added perk, i THINK the drive i put in was an OEM compaq 20 gig one... :-P poopoo on compaq, but this drive is a TON quieter than the old one... and almost 7 times bigger... yay!
thanks for the help guys!
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#32 2005-06-16 7:47 am

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Re: I Now Know My Way Around the Clamshell's Innards

travis wrote:

ironhawk wrote:

Just take a ruler to the drive. If it's 8mm, you're in luck. 9.5 I think would still fit, but 12.5mm will definitely not, at least without modification.

yep, it's 9.5mm-ish, so I think we're good

9.5 mm is fine, that's a standard slim-line notebook drive, as used in all iBooks. You'll be hard-pressed to find a 12.5 mm notebook drive these days, anyway.

8.5 mm drives were only made for a short while by Toshiba, and used in the early Toshiba Libretto subnotebooks.

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#33 2005-06-16 10:56 am

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Re: I Now Know My Way Around the Clamshell's Innards

You owe me 30 seconds of my life ironhawk.


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#34 2005-06-16 1:04 pm

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Re: I Now Know My Way Around the Clamshell's Innards

Alien wrote:

travis wrote:

ironhawk wrote:

Just take a ruler to the drive. If it's 8mm, you're in luck. 9.5 I think would still fit, but 12.5mm will definitely not, at least without modification.

yep, it's 9.5mm-ish, so I think we're good

9.5 mm is fine, that's a standard slim-line notebook drive, as used in all iBooks. You'll be hard-pressed to find a 12.5 mm notebook drive these days, anyway.

8.5 mm drives were only made for a short while by Toshiba, and used in the early Toshiba Libretto subnotebooks.

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Well, the 8mm was the Apple-branded stock drive.



assassin_bill wrote:

You owe me 30 seconds of my life ironhawk.

Eh?
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#35 2005-06-16 4:10 pm

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Re: I Now Know My Way Around the Clamshell's Innards

how so? yes, it was a 9.5 mm drive., 20gigs, made by compaq, if you owe that guy 30 seconds of your life, then I at least owe you my thanks for the help with the hard drive swap instructions!
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#36 2005-06-16 4:14 pm

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Re: I Now Know My Way Around the Clamshell's Innards

Not a problem up


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#37 2005-06-17 5:22 am

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Re: I Now Know My Way Around the Clamshell's Innards

ironhawk wrote:

Well, the 8mm was the Apple-branded stock drive.

Really? That's mighty interesting. Do you still have it? What brand is it? What model number?

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#38 2005-06-17 4:11 pm

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Re: I Now Know My Way Around the Clamshell's Innards

Yeah, I have it.
It is, indeed, a Toshiba.

It's the only reason I even made mention of an 8mm drive.

The model number is HDD2140, and according to the specs, it's exactly 8.45mm, tho my drafting quipment shows me 8 ( well whatever, I'm not splitting hairs over that ).

Either way, I have a 12.5mm drive installed now, and I'd say they're fairly common on Craig's List.
I couldn't pass up 60gigs at 5400rpm for fifty bucks and an excuse to visit Sunnyvale/ leave San Fran for a bit.

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#39 2005-06-19 4:50 am

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Nice. I thought Toshiba had stopped making 8.5 mm drives ages ago. That's a 3.2 GB drive, right? That'd make a perfect upgrade for a Libretto. Good news, thanks.

Yeah, 12.5 mm drives enjoyed a short revival not too long ago, when the bigger sized notebook drives came in that form factor. Nowadays, even most 100 GB drives are slimline, IIRC.

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#40 2005-06-19 7:04 pm

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Re: I Now Know My Way Around the Clamshell's Innards

slimline==9.5, s

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#41 2005-06-20 5:16 am

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Yup.

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#42 2005-06-20 8:01 am

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Re: I Now Know My Way Around the Clamshell's Innards

ironhawk wrote:

assassin_bill wrote:

You owe me 30 seconds of my life ironhawk.

Eh?
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This post is almost as worthless as you.


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#43 2005-06-20 12:51 pm

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Knock it off.

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#44 2005-06-23 3:51 pm

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Re: I Now Know My Way Around the Clamshell's Innards

i am trying to overclock my 466 SE and i don't really understand the chart. do my resisters need to resemble the ones on the chart to overclock my processor  or is that chart just for the 300? im lost sorry!!!

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