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More than 1 poster met your demands, yet you did not revise your original assertion. What exactly was the point of this thread? For you to just soap box?

mo' ron wrote:

More than 1 poster met your demands, yet you did not revise your original assertion. What exactly was the point of this thread? For you to just soap box?

Actually none have...

Sure they showed online only articles, they have yet to show me any proof the CBS, NBC, or any other TV program ever aired the show... not to mention any newspaper rag...

Cyberpawz wrote:

Pariah wrote:

Conservative pundits overwhelmingly dominate talk radio, an increasing large portion of TV commentary and totally own an entire network that makes not one bit of effort to be anything but a conservative soapbox(Fox News).
Even with all that we still get this whining, childish bitching.
Mainstream journalists today are lapdogs to the prevailing power in government and right now that Bush and his ilk. Politicians in general and conservatives in particular are getting a free ride today from the media.
I am sure any real reporter who worked in the 60s or 70s just looks at the state of reporting today and just wants to puke.

I'd love to know what you listen to.

Oh, BTW, you are aware that most newspapers only have one or 2 editions a day so if it happened today you wont see it in print untill tomorrow?

Save your complaining until the next edition rolls of the presses. If its in Reuters and on the AP it will be in print.

Cyberpawz wrote:

http://www.senate.gov/~durbin/PressReleases/000328b.htm

Google cache is your friend.

Cyberpawz wrote:

mo' ron wrote:

More than 1 poster met your demands, yet you did not revise your original assertion. What exactly was the point of this thread? For you to just soap box?

Actually none have...

Sure they showed online only articles, they have yet to show me any proof the CBS, NBC, or any other TV program ever aired the show... not to mention any newspaper rag...

Online articles from mainstream sites have been posted. From your own post, this story has only been out about 16 hours, so it's only a matter of time before it's printed somewhere. I don't watch much TV, but considering the stuff about it online, i'm pretty sure it's been shown somewhere.

Not to mention that on the list of things that are newsworthy, it's pretty low on the list.

mo' ron wrote:

Cyberpawz wrote:

mo' ron wrote:

More than 1 poster met your demands, yet you did not revise your original assertion. What exactly was the point of this thread? For you to just soap box?

Actually none have...

Sure they showed online only articles, they have yet to show me any proof the CBS, NBC, or any other TV program ever aired the show... not to mention any newspaper rag...

Online articles from mainstream sites have been posted. From your own post, this story has only been out about 16 hours, so it's only a matter of time before it's printed somewhere. I don't watch much TV, but considering the stuff about it online, i'm pretty sure it's been shown somewhere.

Not to mention that on the list of things that are newsworthy, it's pretty low on the list.

No it's not low on the list, stepping on the Koran is even lower but that got front page... I wonder why?

Cyberpawz wrote:

mo' ron wrote:

Cyberpawz wrote:

Actually none have...

Sure they showed online only articles, they have yet to show me any proof the CBS, NBC, or any other TV program ever aired the show... not to mention any newspaper rag...

Online articles from mainstream sites have been posted. From your own post, this story has only been out about 16 hours, so it's only a matter of time before it's printed somewhere. I don't watch much TV, but considering the stuff about it online, i'm pretty sure it's been shown somewhere.

Not to mention that on the list of things that are newsworthy, it's pretty low on the list.

No it's not low on the list, stepping on the Koran is even lower but that got front page... I wonder why?

So is this thread now officially about the topic of Durbin's comments?

If so, why exactly do you feel that it is so news worthy?

You said in another thread that America sucks, where as Durbin (which, oddly, you only identified as "A Democratic Senator" in your first post) was saying that he thinks American's to be better at least better than Nazis and other atrocious regimes throughout history. Which statement is worse?

Last edited by mo' ron (2005-06-16 10:06 pm)

ShnickyShnack wrote:

mo' ron wrote:

More than 1 poster met your demands, yet you did not revise your original assertion. What exactly was the point of this thread? For you to just soap box?

Painful truth: YOU'RE WASTING YOUR FRIGGING TIME.

Creative title, did you manage to come up with it all by yourself? Thats impressive.

Cyberpawz wrote:

WindowsBreakerG4 wrote:

Cyberpawz wrote:

Got anything worthy to add or you just here to troll?

Many of us would like to say this to you but we are nice enough to keep our mouths shut.

Either that or we just figure you are not worth the effort

Another troll, boy they are coming out of the wood work... care to add anything of worth to this topic?

I just speak the truth. Nothing more, nothing less

Cyberpawz wrote:

I hate [...] this country [...].

Durbin's comments had nothing to do with Americans or even the military in general. What he said according to the news sites was:

If I read this to you and did not tell you that it was an FBI agent describing what Americans had done to prisoners in their control, you would most certainly believe this must have been done by Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, or some mad regime - Pol Pot or others - that had no concern for human beings.

It doesn't specify what document he is reading, it is probably one of the secret documents you think the gov. should hide from us. Maybe it's an internal report detailing the real torture techniques the CIA uses to extract information about attacks, or maybe it's something publicly available describing the run-of-the mill torture the DHS maybe uses. In any case, it's clear that Dubin feels that some procedure used in the treatment of prisoners is not reflective of Compassionate Conservatism or human rights, or any of the other ideals we as Americans are suppose to hold. He doesn't call the US troop Nazis, he doesn't call American Nazis, he doesn't call anyone a Nazi, for that matter.

It's mostly the Conservative spin machines (that started with the White House's response) that is twisting his comments around in a severe manner to mean something else. It's unfortunate that you don't have the reading skills to see this, unless you know more information than what is being posted online.

If you look at the AP release about this, it simply reports that Durbin is being attacked for his comments, but it doesn't make any statements about his comments.

WindowsBreakerG4 wrote:

Cyberpawz wrote:

WindowsBreakerG4 wrote:

Many of us would like to say this to you but we are nice enough to keep our mouths shut.

Either that or we just figure you are not worth the effort

Another troll, boy they are coming out of the wood work... care to add anything of worth to this topic?

I just speak the truth. Nothing more, nothing less

"The truth according to WindowsBreaker(TM)"

No thanks, I'll pass.

I just saw a video of Durben's comments ans taken in context I dont see them as being particularly inflamitory.
Altho it is a shame that he spoke so bluntly because now his rhetoric will be the story, not the FBI agents report on prisoner abuse at Gitmo that he was commenting on..

The Honourable Senator Richard Durbin of Illinois, speaking on the floor of the Senate, as recorded by the Congressional Record
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Make of it what you will.

Last edited by jerwin (2005-06-16 10:27 pm)