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#1 2005-05-06 7:07 am

Laura
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PDF's in Quark

At work we still work in OS 9, but lately whenever I try to make a PDF from Quark from computer freezes. It doesn't happen ALL the time, just most of the time. I trashed the preferences hoping that that would help, but it didn't. Added more memory, etc. So frustrating having to restart about 15x a day!

And our IT guy is mainly a PC techie, doesn't know that much about Macs. Please help!

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#2 2005-05-06 9:21 am

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Re: PDF's in Quark

Save as EPS file and drop onto distiller. Quark will fail at doing any project that takes longer thna five seconds, or anything that involves scrolling.

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#3 2005-05-06 9:51 am

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Re: PDF's in Quark

as opposed to saving as EPS, you can print to a postscript file from quark and then drop that on distiller.

i've ALWAYS had troubles with making PDFs out of quark.... quark's "automatic" convert to PDF function is crap. you have to do it manually.


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#4 2005-05-06 9:52 am

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Re: PDF's in Quark

Okay, thanks, I'll try that.

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#5 2005-05-06 5:14 pm

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Re: PDF's in Quark

stoned wrote:

as opposed to saving as EPS, you can print to a postscript file from quark and then drop that on distiller.

i've ALWAYS had troubles with making PDFs out of quark.... quark's "automatic" convert to PDF function is crap. you have to do it manually.

Ditto. On all counts. Printing to a .ps file usually takes care of things perfectly.


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#6 2005-05-22 3:58 pm

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Re: PDF's in Quark

I've had this problem before and it was because one of the fonts was bad. Maybe you have a bad font and don't realize it.

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#7 2005-05-23 6:50 am

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Re: PDF's in Quark

No, our fonts are tested regularly because of our printers...if it's not working, it just defaults to Courier.

But I've been making EPS's then dropping it over the distiller and haven't had ANY problems. Thank you very much for the advice. It's a pain having an extra step, but that's much better then my computer freezing 10x a day!

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#8 2005-05-25 2:22 am

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Re: PDF's in Quark

Hi Laura

You don't say what version of QuarkXpress, but I assume it's a version of 4? Have you updated to the very latest version of 4 - which I thnk is 4.11 (?). And also got the very latest version of the Quark PDF export extension?

But generally, I would have to agree with everybody else, the best way is to print to a .ps file and drop that onto Distiller. That way you know that it will work 95% of the time.


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#9 2005-05-25 7:17 am

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Re: PDF's in Quark

Hi! Yes, we have Quark 4.11
hmmm...the latest Quark PDF extension? That I don't know. The only thing that I know for sure is that our distiller is version 3.0. That sounds kind of old! Where would I find out what the latest version of the Quark extension is?

Also, one other question. On my computer at home, saving a file as a PDF isn't even listed in the utilities. Should I reinstall Quark? I don't have Distiller at home at all...going to try and get it from work, but would that explain why it's not an option?

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#10 2005-05-27 10:34 am

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Re: PDF's in Quark

Yes. That would explain it.

IMHO, printing to .ps and distilling is the ONLY acceptable way to make a PDF.

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#11 2005-06-01 11:17 am

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Re: PDF's in Quark

Does InDesign's "Export as PDF" command do just that, though? Or do you print your InDesign files to .ps, too?


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#12 2005-06-01 12:31 pm

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Re: PDF's in Quark

A PDF is just modified postscript code. The export command in any of these apps just automates the actual handoff of the postscript to the distiller engine. Some do it better than others.

I still print to .ps and Distill from InDesign because the Export function forces a double byte font encoding that none of my printers will support. I went to that InDesign tour dealie last week and they mentioned that InDesign CS2's export command has fixed the Identity H (CID) font encoding problem! Finally a printer approved PDF export function. YES! smile

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#13 2005-06-01 8:37 pm

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Re: PDF's in Quark

I know that the original poster stated that they are using Quark 4, but for anyone using Quark 6, you can go into Quark's Preferences and under PDF select "Create Postscript file for later distilling" rather than "Direct to PDF". Then you still have handy access to the export to PDF command but can use Distiller rather than Quark's built in PDF engine.

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#14 2005-06-01 9:01 pm

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Re: PDF's in Quark

Potty, you're officially into an area I don't understand sad I know how to make PDFs and make sure that all the images are the right resolution and are embedded correctly. After that


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#15 2005-06-01 9:15 pm

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Re: PDF's in Quark

Abu wrote:

Congroots on

nice use of roo.  up

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#16 2005-06-21 3:46 pm

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Re: PDF's in Quark

pottymouth is right about CID fonts.  They can be a PITA when your equipment is a bit
older.  They are a type of font that was created to handle asian character sets (huge
amounts of characters), and this type of encoding can cause havok with older RIPS and
printers.  It's good to know if your service provider/print vendor can handle them.  You'll
thank yourself later.

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