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#1 2005-06-16 5:51 am
- DjHeinz
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Quark 6.5
My quark suddenly started beeing VEEERY slow!...
its thinking all the time.... with almost no CPU use... and no Network traffic!...
any suggestions!?..
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#3 2005-06-16 1:28 pm
- singingjim
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Re: Quark 6.5
I installed 2300 Open Type fonts yesterday and now Quark won't open. "Quark has unexpectedly (expectedly) quit." Before it even opens. Do you ever get this message when just closing the program? Mine does (did?) it all the time. I'm going to reinstall the 6.5 update and see if it kick starts it back to working, but maybe someone knows about this problem.
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#5 2005-06-16 4:10 pm
- pottymouth
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Re: Quark 6.5
LOL
I thought singing was kidding for a sec but I think s/he's serious.
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#6 2005-06-16 4:34 pm
Re: Quark 6.5
singingjim wrote:
I installed 2300 Open Type fonts
are all the fonts active at the same time? that might be choking quark.... try deactivating most of the fonts and see if quark still does the same thing.
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#7 2005-06-17 8:15 am
Re: Quark 6.5
If you installed and activated 2300 OT fonts it's a wonder Quack is the only problem you are having. If you don't deactivate the ones you are not presently using soon Quack won't be your only problem I'm sure.
Make it idiot-proof, and someone will make a better idiot.
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#8 2005-06-20 3:47 pm
- singingjim
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Re: Quark 6.5
Balderdash! Having the fonts activated gives me the choice of fonts and the ability to experiment instead of only having certain ones activated or knowing exactly which font I want to use in every instance. I'll have none of this crap of the limits of technology stifling my creativity. I have experienced no problems in general except for Quark acting stupid - but then that's normal anyway. My original problem fixed itself once Suitcase got used to the idea of having every font activated, but now Quark won't auto-activate my fonts now. What's up with that? I'm sure it's something simple, and NOT related to having a lot of fonts activated. I didn't delete any formerly activated fonts, just de-activated them and activated the Open Type fonts.
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#9 2005-06-20 8:12 pm
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Re: Quark 6.5
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#10 2005-06-21 8:04 am
- singingjim
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Re: Quark 6.5
That's quite humorous. =\
Seriously, Freehand, Adobe CS, and every other program works fine with the exception that MS Office apps yell at me about fonts when I open one or another, but still work fine once the app is initialized. The only program not dealing is Quark. I have over 10,000 fonts on my Windows machine and it could care less. Shortcoming is a good word when dealing with fonts on a Mac. Quite annoying actually. Guess it's time to start using that InDesign that's been sitting idle on my HDD for a few months now. I'm sure it will work perfectly </sarcasm>. Just one more learning curve to divide and conquer. If anyone has an idea that would help with the Quark font auto-activation problem without feeling the need to try out new comedy material, that would be appreciated. =]
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#11 2005-06-21 11:46 am
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Re: Quark 6.5
Well, you asked if someone knew the problem, so why bite their heads off when they tell you the answer?
You can write it up to Quark writing shoddy code if you want - Lord knows they truly do seem to despise people who give them money - but the simple fact is that Quark Xpress is choking over the unusually large number of fonts. I think the fact that every other app seems to be working for you is a testament to the fact that it is a limitation of Quark.
If you need to use Quark, then you need to trim down a few thousand fonts. That's part of the price of using it, apparently. If you don't need to use it, then why get angry?
Personally, it drives me nuts when I have a gazillion fonts active. I know what I want and I get annoyed having to fish around for them. Conversely, my other designer here ends up with Garamonds from 4 different foundries unless I specifically go through and deactivate things he isn't/shouldn't be using when he's not looking. It might not be an entirely bad thing.
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#12 2005-06-23 4:33 pm
- singingjim
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Re: Quark 6.5
No anger here. Just looking for a possible answer to a problem instead of getting amateur comedy bits. I appreciate your candor and I'll fiddle about with the fonts and Quark. I just like having them in my list to choose from for the exact opposite reason you don't want them there. I usually don't know what I want until I see it. We deal with a lot of different subjects at our publishing company so I like to use different fonts as much as possible instead of the same ones all the time. I don't have them all memorized...yet. Just upgraded to Tiger so we'll see how that goes. I like the Widgets. Bill should try to rip those off somehow for Windows. ;-]
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#14 2005-06-24 1:30 pm
- Kevin Newell
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Re: Quark 6.5
You have got to be kidding me. They have a preview pane in Suite case for previewing fonts. But having 2300 fonts open in your suitcase is not very wise. If you restart your computer you may see the Please wait while Suitcase initializes message.
You can't have that many fonts installed in your system folder, hence why you use suitcase, this should give you an indication that you can't have that many fonts open at one time.
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#15 2005-06-27 10:09 am
- singingjim
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Re: Quark 6.5
Nope. Not kidding. And I like scrolling through the fonts in the application in which I'm working instead of having to go back and forth between the app and suitcase. You've got to be kidding me if you don't think that makes infinitely more sense, but alas, it's not possible since Macs just don't deal with fonts very well. If I had a dual monitor setup it wouldn't be a big deal going back and forth, but I guess I'm stuck doing it that way because the whole font thing is impossible with any more than a hundred or so activated. It an OS flaw that maybe someday will be rectified, but I'm sure the makers of Suitcase will line someone's pockets to keep that from happening. <annoyed>
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#16 2005-06-27 2:20 pm
- Kevin Newell
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Re: Quark 6.5
Singingjim please take the time to read over this. It will help you understand it is not a mac issue, but is common to all OS's.
singingjim wrote:
I have over 10,000 fonts on my Windows machine and it could care less.
No to mention it is impossible top have 10,000 fonts installed in Windows.
1st Source: http://desktoppub.about.com/od/fonttech … ntswin.htm
Font overload can slow down your computer or cause it to behave erratically.
2nd Source: http://www.dafont.com/en/faq.php
Windows is supposed to be able to manage about 1000 fonts. But avoid to install too many fonts at one time because that slows down the system. A lot of programs have to load to memory all installed fonts to be able to run.
3rd Source http://www.adobe.com/support/techdocs/328607.html
If the registry key contains too much information, your system may behave erratically (for example, return errors). To reduce the amount of information stored in a registry key, remove fonts.
There are many more articles on this if you would like me to show you.
So now you know that PC's, have no advantage over Macs with fonts. OSX is not flawed in that aspect at all. You asked a question and we have given you an answer. Quark and any other program will not run properly if you have 1000's of active fonts.
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