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#1 2005-07-31 2:56 am
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Alien's abusive behavior
He shouldn't be a mod.
http://www.macaddict.com/forums/topic/66606
there's really no need for all of this
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#2 2005-07-31 3:11 am
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Re: Alien's abusive behavior
Seriously XYZ, you are terribly whiney.
You have an absolutely breath-taking... heiney. I mean, that thing's good. I wanna be friends with it.
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#3 2005-07-31 3:20 am
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Re: Alien's abusive behavior
There is nothing in that topic that justifies Alien's personal attacks. That's all I have to say in this topic. If people want to pretend there's justification, that's up to them.
there's really no need for all of this
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#4 2005-07-31 3:44 am
Re: Alien's abusive behavior
There is enough in there that justifies my classification of you as a whiney bitch. First off, you are not a mod, so you are not the person to question the correctness of that thread being in The Rant Room. Second, you are not in any position to demand off-topic answers to questions you pose in that thread.
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#5 2005-07-31 4:50 am
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Re: Alien's abusive behavior
XYZ: "whhaa whhaaaaaa"
Alien: "grumble grumble.... ::fart::"
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#6 2005-07-31 6:37 am
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Re: Alien's abusive behavior
XYZ wrote:
He shouldn't be a mod.
We think he does a fine job.
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#7 2005-07-31 9:33 am
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Re: Alien's abusive behavior
XYZ wrote:
He shouldn't be a mod.
http://www.macaddict.com/forums/topic/66606
It seems to little old me, that real problem is that you think that you should be a mod. Had you actually kept to the topic and not tried to be a whiney bitch faux-moderator than this event would never have occurred.
Your thread is peculiar because your posts were off topic and antagonizing and if anything, you caused the incident. You created the drama, you created the conflict, and you're creating more drama by starting a thread about it.
You're a princess, aren't you?
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#8 2005-07-31 10:09 am
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Re: Alien's abusive behavior
isn't everyone a princess at heart?
Warmest regards.
Sincerely,
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#9 2005-07-31 10:28 am
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Re: Alien's abusive behavior
Maybe Alien shouldn't have used the word 'bitch' in that context. Mods do have a responsibility to suspend some of their humanity. 
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#10 2005-07-31 11:01 am
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Re: Alien's abusive behavior
I don't really care one way or the other but iThink you lose any claim to the "high road" when you use a term like "whiney bitch". That's the language of 14 yo's with self esteem issues and drunken beligerent frat boys. I expect, and for the most part see, better from the mods here.
Again, I don't care, but after alien's tirade in MiniThink of a week or so ago, I'm surprised his modship wasn't rescinded. He went off on someone in a manner that gets the avarage user a stern warning at least.
Oh god! Did I just come to xyz's defense??!! 
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#11 2005-07-31 11:09 am
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Re: Alien's abusive behavior
Damnit.
Where's this tirade?
Last edited by Zetetic Apparatchik (2005-07-31 11:10 am)
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#12 2005-07-31 11:22 am
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Re: Alien's abusive behavior
Zetetic Apparatchik wrote:
Damnit.
Where's this tirade?
http://www.macaddict.com/forums/topic/66244/1
Alien wrote:
NokX wrote:
Alien wrote:
Next time, I hope it's you, NokX. Seriously. FOAD.
anyone who runs from the cops during a situation like this should be shot. but i do appreciate the death wish.
You're quite welcome. Now kindly go smurf yourself and croak, will ya. You smurfing piece of human waste.
what if the guy was strapped and your brother/sister/son/father was on that train and he killed them because the cops let him run... you'd be singing a different tune then. but - of course you all would be right, as always.
What if, what of, what if? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's nice and easy for ya, right there. Good thing they shot him, huh? I really,t ruly hope some copper someday will mistake you for a terrist and blow your smurfing head off.
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No. NokX would die a happy man knowing that the guy blowing his dysfunctional brains out was doing the right thing by taking out the threat that is NokX. And the world would be a better place, rid of human garbage like him.
Everybody wins!
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Alien wrote:
You are an idiot.
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.tsooJIs that "moderator" under your name just decoration?
I totally agree with Alien on most of his points but that behavior is not all that becoming of a moderator.
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#13 2005-07-31 11:25 am
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Re: Alien's abusive behavior
Just found that post before I came back here to post it... Thanks for bringing it up.
I agree with F. Jackson. He is not showing the personal restraint required. If he is going to remain a mod then some sort of cooling off period might be a good idea... Or he could go crazy and post his password like He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named. Everyone'd enjoy that.
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#14 2005-07-31 11:44 am
Re: Alien's abusive behavior
Difference is, I'm not about to betray the trust that others have placed in me.
As for my tirade in MiniThink, well, I'm still a user here, as well. Once upon a time we had forum software that made it easier to distinguish between moderational and personal posts; we don't anymore. But I'm not about to hide behind some alternick to posts stuff like that. What I expressed there was my personal opinion, and anyone who is too stupid to grasp that the opinions I express are not necessairly those of the Mod Squad as a whole, MacAddict Forums, MacAddict Magazine or Future Publishing can quite frankly go stuff themselves.
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#15 2005-07-31 11:48 am
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Re: Alien's abusive behavior
Alien wrote:
Difference is, I'm not about to betray the trust that others have placed in me.
Joke. Sorry, bit inappropriate.
As for my tirade in MiniThink, well, I'm still a user here, as well. Once upon a time we had forum software that made it easier to distinguish between moderational and personal posts; we don't anymore. But I'm not about to hide behind some alternick to posts stuff like that. What I expressed there was my personal opinion, and anyone who is too stupid to grasp that the opinions I express are not necessairly those of the Mod Squad as a whole, MacAddict Forums, MacAddict Magazine or Future Publishing can quite frankly go stuff themselves.
That's no the point. The omnipresent (except when using long reply) Moderator label means that you are always in uniform. You're still allowed opinions and personality. Just not to extremes. Maybe its just because other mods are naturally more restrained. 
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#16 2005-07-31 12:07 pm
Re: Alien's abusive behavior
Zetetic Apparatchik wrote:
Alien wrote:
Difference is, I'm not about to betray the trust that others have placed in me.
Joke. Sorry, bit inappropriate.
Not necessarily. I just think it's high time the message got out that that is in fact the issue with what happened, not that some normally-closed-off section of the forums was accessible to a couple of juvenile turds. Any sort of mishap could've caused that. Anyway.
As for my tirade in MiniThink, well, I'm still a user here, as well. Once upon a time we had forum software that made it easier to distinguish between moderational and personal posts; we don't anymore. But I'm not about to hide behind some alternick to posts stuff like that. What I expressed there was my personal opinion, and anyone who is too stupid to grasp that the opinions I express are not necessairly those of the Mod Squad as a whole, MacAddict Forums, MacAddict Magazine or Future Publishing can quite frankly go stuff themselves.
That's no the point. The omnipresent (except when using long reply) Moderator label means that you are always in uniform. You're still allowed opinions and personality. Just not to extremes. Maybe its just because other mods are naturally more restrained.
Well, I guess we just see things differently, there. To me, all that Moderator badge says is that when I say something forum-related to a member (as opposed to, say, XYZ), they better listen up and do as I tell them. All it means is that besides being a member here, I also happen to be a mod. If people think that my opnion carries more weight because of that badge, well, then that is their problem.
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#17 2005-07-31 1:06 pm
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Re: Alien's abusive behavior
Its a typical point of tension for mods. Do we always take the high road and never EVER post like normal people, or are we allowed to actually be human?
Don't politicians get to go out to dinner at regular restaurants every now and then? Isn't a governor or PotUS allowed to be a normal person? He's still known for his position, but he's allowed to have opinions that aren't representative of the group he represents.
Personally, I'd have never publicly called XYZ a bitch. That's just my mannorism, though. I think Alien is allowed to express his opinions, and it shouldn't be held against him. Its my belief that we're members first and moderators second.
And XYZ, you do whine too much. And Alien was right on when he pointed out that you create drama. You know I've agreed with you on a lot of things, but if you're the same in real life as you are around here, you're definitely one of those people that give the majority of homosexuals in the world a bad name. You're a drama queen.
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#18 2005-07-31 3:48 pm
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Re: Alien's abusive behavior
IcarusFountain wrote:
Its a typical point of tension for mods. Do we always take the high road and never EVER post like normal people, or are we allowed to actually be human?
Most seem to, including you.
Personally, I'd have never publicly called XYZ a bitch. That's just my mannorism, though.
That's sort of my point.
I think Alien is allowed to express his opinions, and it shouldn't be held against him. Its my belief that we're members first and moderators second.
See the MiniThink article quoted above; most members would be given a cooling off period for that, esp. as it continued throughout the thread.
And XYZ, you do whine too much. And Alien was right on when he pointed out that you create drama. You know I've agreed with you on a lot of things, but if you're the same in real life as you are around here, you're definitely one of those people that give the majority of homosexuals in the world a bad name. You're a drama queen.
So? It was the manner with which Alien objected and again see the MiniThink article.
A moderator should show greater restraint than the average member. Alien seems to demonstrate the opposite.
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#19 2005-07-31 4:35 pm
Re: Alien's abusive behavior
Zetetic Apparatchik wrote:
A moderator should show greater restraint than the average member. Alien seems to demonstrate the opposite.
Let's get one thing straight: this is your opinion of how moderators hsould behave, not a general rule around these forums.
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#20 2005-07-31 4:39 pm
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Re: Alien's abusive behavior
Alien wrote:
Zetetic Apparatchik wrote:
A moderator should show greater restraint than the average member. Alien seems to demonstrate the opposite.
Let's get one thing straight: this is your opinion of how moderators hsould behave, not a general rule around these forums.
Yes, and an impression of gained from other moderators ; I don't believe that your modship should be rescinded but that you should've been given a cooling off period, as any member would have suffered, following the MiniThink incident.
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#21 2005-07-31 4:52 pm
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Re: Alien's abusive behavior
Anyone else notice the link from XYZ included 666?! It was doomed from the start.
My experience with XYZ is that he really IS a whiny bitch and has called people homophobes merely for disagreeing with whatever POS was posted by him on that day. If that offends anyone, I am NOT sorry because I've seen it from XYZ before.
Now a Mod disagrees with XYZ, and here we go again. Whiny bitch XYZ posts again. Well, here's a few pointers for you:
1. YOU'RE NOT IN CHARGE HERE!!!
2. YOU CAN'T MAKE AN EXECUTIVE DECISION ABOUT WHERE A POST SHOULD GO!!!
3. GET OVER IT AND POST YOUR NORMAL CRAP INSTEAD OF THIS!!!
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#22 2005-07-31 5:02 pm
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Re: Alien's abusive behavior
If you have a problem with Alien, take it up with him. He and I butted heads once, we talked it over, each of us apologized, and we're good now.
The fact is that a moderator is no less human than the rest of us, and no less fallible. It's also good to keep in mind that this is just an internet forum. It's really nothing worth getting worked up over.
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#23 2005-07-31 5:27 pm
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Re: Alien's abusive behavior
I wanna know why anyone bothers reading or replying to Zetetiwhatever Mac OS XI's inane bullfrog. It is currently, and has always been useless.
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#24 2005-07-31 5:28 pm
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Re: Alien's abusive behavior
Yeah. I... know. I'm sorry. I just wish that Alien wouldn't be so nasty ; it's horrible to see mods bitch
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#25 2005-07-31 6:20 pm
Re: Alien's abusive behavior
TheConfuzed1 wrote:
If you have a problem with Alien, take it up with him. He and I butted heads once, we talked it over, each of us apologized, and we're good now.
The fact is that a moderator is no less human than the rest of us, and no less fallible. It's also good to keep in mind that this is just an internet forum. It's really nothing worth getting worked up over.
The same thing happened with me and Jeh. In my case, it was both of our faults, but i probably coulda been more tactful instead of bringing it out in the forums. That puts people on the defensive and pisses them off even more. Had i sent him a PM (yes, we had PM then), it woulda been resolved more quickly, and with less trouble.
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